More Kiffin - Foot in Mouth, Again/Official Tenn Recruiting Violations Thread

[fanatic]

I know his son is his boss now, but I dont see why the elder Kiffin does'nt just pull him to the side and tell him to chill. Personally, I hope it continues. As much as it is entertaining, he's also alienating himself among his coaching peers and every team they play will be that much more fired up. No way UT sustain that type of emotion from game to game.

I hope there's proof of what he said to the USCe recruit; especially after he went on about it not being his way. Here's to him being a pathological liar on top of everything else.

If thinks keep going the way the have been, UT will wish they were the ones that hired Gene Chizik. Maybe they already do.

[stevescookin]

To put it in perspective, it really is just a dust up, that we're having a lot of fun with. But a lot of straws have to be piling up on the camel's back. I personally can't wait till they play Florida,Bama,LSU, and now South Carolina. And then You've got the impending NCAA scrutiny in response to all the secondary violatios. What's next ... a strip club sighting ,,, DUI ...wrongful termination lawsuits?

"Like sands through the hourglass..."


...and their fanbase has the chutzpah to criticize Les Miles ???

[HatcherTiger]

Originally Posted by stevescookin

...and their fanbase has the chutzpah to criticize Les Miles ???

"Bring back Phat Fil."

[DRC]

More negative pub for Tenn.

Raiders depose Kiffin, attack former coach in letter to Tennessee

New Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin's rocky start at Rocky Top will get rockier early next week when he is deposed by lawyers for the Oakland Raiders, who refused to pay the remainder of his contract after firing him in September -- and who will try to demonstrate why during what promises to be a contentious deposition.

The deposition is set for Monday in the San Francisco office of Kiffin's attorney, a front-office official for the Raiders told CBSSports.com on Friday. The deposition is necessary because of Kiffin's grievance with the NFL over the salary he says the Raiders still owe him -- two months salary from the three-year contract he signed in January 2007.

In addition to the timing of Monday's deposition, CBSSports.com also has learned that the Raiders sent a scathing letter to Kiffin's boss at Tennessee, president John Petersen, less than two months after the school hired Kiffin in late November.

• RAIDERS LETTER TO TENNESSEE

In the letter written by Raiders general counsel Jeff Birren, a copy of which was obtained by CBSSports.com, the NFL team suggests Kiffin undermined the Raiders after he was fired.

"It is ... quite possible that during the period of time for which Kiffin is seeking compensation from the Raiders he was also actively supplying information about the team to its opponents," Birren wrote.

The letter, which accused Kiffin of misleading the team during the hiring process and undermining owner Al Davis during Kiffin's 20 games as coach, noted "Mr. Kiffin's personal agenda in his apparently on-going efforts to damage the Raiders" and concluded ominously:

"It cannot be in the best interests of the University to continue to serve as (Kiffin's) ally in his personal, though misplaced, war to rewrite the past."

Phone and email messages were left Friday with Kiffin's publicists at Tennessee.

Monday's deposition figures to add more headlines to the curious pile Kiffin has created in his first few months on the job at Tennessee.

[stevescookin]

Al Davis might shoot off at the mouth, but I don't think his attorneys would proceed if they didn't have some real evidence or testimony that Kiffen divulged proprietary info on purpose. And to go so far as to warn Tennessee to stand clear... ?



Where there's smoke...Jamarkus, tell us what happened there? You had a front row seat.

[OkieTiger_KATT]

i dont visit other teams boards. what is the sentiment in the rest of the sec about kiffin?

[stevescookin]

My friend from Alabama says everyone there can't stand Kiffen, but they hated Tennessee already because Fullmer turned them in for recruiting violations. I saw a Florida board where they were calling Kiffen things like Lane snitchen, Line sniffen, and Urban's bitch. So what are we supposed to think. I talked with an Ole Miss alum customer of mine and he thinks Kiffen's a real joke and they're glad to be rid of Orgeron. I'm probably not jumping to conclusions when I think Kiffens got a lot of people thinking he's a real buffoon because that seems to be the prevailing opinion even among people who don't hate UT.

What I'm curious about is what are the higher ups at UT thinking themselves? The way he's apparently treating long term athletic department employees (secretaries and the grad assistants); and the coming NCAA scrutiny concerning all the secondary violations committed by him and his staff.

And as the Ole Miss alum told me... Kiffen's dad has a great reputation among coaching circles and everyone's wondering where his dad is in all this. He has been eerily silent.

[OkieTiger_KATT]

Originally Posted by stevescookin

I saw a Florida board where they were calling Kiffen things like Lane snitchen, Line sniffen, and Urban's bitch.

i really liked a name i saw on this board. lame kitten.

Originally Posted by cookie

What I'm curious about is what are the higher ups at UT thinking themselves? The way he's apparently treating long term athletic department employees (secretaries and the grad assistants); and the coming NCAA scrutiny concerning all the secondary violations committed by him and his staff.

i dont care for tenn, but i feel sorry for staff that -word is - he's treating like crap. and he does seem to be drawing the wrong kind of attention to their program.

[HatcherTiger]

Originally Posted by stevescookin

Kiffen's dad .

Will likely save Lane from being a total train wreck at UT once football has to be played.

[DRC]

Originally Posted by HatcherTiger

Will likely save Lane from being a total train wreck at UT once football has to be played.

They would not have hired Kiffin without his dad being part of the plan.

[stevescookin]

It's been quiet on the Kiffen front. DRC do you think daddy grounded little Lame for snithcin'? I liked it better when he could come out of his room and play. It was ....

Verrrrrry interesting !!

[DRC]

Well, there has been a lot going on behind the scenes with various influential people making it clear about how Tenn expected their head coach to act. Plus, spring practice is underway so he doesnt have much time to screw up...again. Im told most of his recent interviews have been scripted and screened before he even sits before a reporter. They are trying everything to stop the train wreck and from what I hear it seems to be working. They have moved numerous amounts of personal around within the football operation in an effort to control/monitor/buffer Kiffin. From the sounds of it you may not here much about Kiffin until football season. The Raiders issue is still out there but I dont think you will hear any earth shattering news about that.

[stevescookin]

So basically, you're saying that coach Kiffen has to be:

[OkieTiger_KATT]

Originally Posted by stevescookin

So basically, you're saying that coach Kiffen has to be:

i was thinking it sounds like he's got a lot of baby sitters. but that'll do too.



hmmm.... i wonder if i should buy stock in duct tape as much as its gonna take to keep that yap closed?

[DRC]

Originally Posted by OkieTiger

i was thinking it sounds like he's got a lot of baby sitters. but that'll do too.

Thats EXACTLY the situation Okie. There is a lot of distrust between Kiffin and some of the old guard he see's as being loyal to Fulmer. The AD had no choice but to move some personnel around to help with Kiffin's paranoia. Kiffin may have good reason to be worried. Fulmer has refused to meet with him and there is some back room back stabbing going on. The Fulmer supporters are using Kiffin's well publicized gaffes to make their point about how firing Fulmer was a mistake. Some of these people think if Kiffin screws up enough to get fired that Fulmer would be the only choice to come back and rescue the program. I think much of what happened before a couple weeks ago was being looked at as rookie mistakes. However, when Mr. Jim Haslam (MAJOR BIG BUCKS supporter and board member) made a trip to the AD's office to tell him enough is enough the hammer was brought down with authority. You dont screw around when Haslam makes something known. This guy carries the biggest stick imaginable at Tennessee. Things took a serious turn at that point and the AD had to make some quick moves and get people in place that Kiffin was comfortable with. His butt is on the line too because his main supporter, the President, is on his way out at Tennessee. If Kiffin fails the AD is likely to get the boot as well but its something Tennessee doesnt need right now when they are having to replace a President. If the President wasnt on his way out there is some speculation that Haslam would have already demanded Kiffin be fired.

Overall, things have calmed down quite a bit. The personnel moves made and the admonishment of Kiffin both public and private seem to have an effect. It also doesnt hurt that he had a pretty successful recruiting effort with Bryce Brown which hurts the Fulmer groups efforts. He is on a short leash though but he may have finally got the message. We'll see...

[Contained Chaos]

So it sounds like my prediction of Kiffen becoming UTenn's very own Sarah Palin was dead-on. Let's hope the results are similar.

[Mike in Memphis]

Originally Posted by Contained Chaos

So it sounds like my prediction of Kiffen becoming UTenn's very own Sarah Palin was dead-on. Let's hope the results are similar.

His daughter is pregnant and not getting married???

[BAY0U BENGAL]

Originally Posted by Mike in Memphis

His daughter is pregnant and not getting married???

No, Kiffin shot a moose from a helicopter.

[LEGACY TIGER]

It shouldn't be long before either ESPN, Fox, CBS, or HBO has the Kiffen Comedy Hour. This will run as a weekly show airing all of Lame Kittens weekly bloopers. Should be rather entertaining. I can't wait, gonna be a must Tivo show.

[epic37311]

I hope Kiffin can back up what he's doing or he will be run out of Knoxville.
At least we got something to talk about in the offseason. Probly 40 pages to this thread before its over.

[bhelmLSU]

Kinda of weird but actually funny. There are a few of these on youtube.


Episodes include interviews with Urban, Fulmer, Bryce Brown, and Ashlon Jeffrey.


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-uup-daGig&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div[/media]

[RHans405]

Tennesse has now lost 11 players since their spring game.

Excite - Sports News

[stevescookin]

Wow, I didn't know it was so many...I only knew of the few posted here.

Not good.

[BAY0U BENGAL]

I think I was reading the article on ESPN.com and Kiffin came off sounding like he was glad they left. Something about, If you're not Tenn then get out. IMO it sounds more like, If you're not Kiffin then get out.

[DRC]

When any coach takes over a troubled program you are going to have a lot of attrition. I dont think this is a big deal for Tenn. Only one or two of those guys were potential starters and many of the others had problems tolerated under Fulmer's regime.