Gingrich at Republican Fundraiser Says Obama’s ‘Already Failed’

LSUDeek

Anyone who believed in his crap bought a bucket of lies.

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I don't think I'm going to take the bait on this one.

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Bengal Buddy

Gingrich has gained credibility since leaving office. The low point of his credibility was around the time he left office and a year or two thereafter. But he does not have the support within the party for a credible run for the Presidency. He is well liked and respected, but his time for high office has come and gone and I think most people realize that.

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mobius481

i don't see why that's not true??? I'm totally confused now, but whatever. What i meant was if you are healthy or unhealthy it probably doesn't affect your cost much if you're in a big enough group.

I'm sure we do agree.

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LSUMASTERMIND

Your still missing the point, I know people who had insurance and still was refused treatment on life threatening conditions, because the insurance company called it a pre-exisiting condition. And it does have something to do with it as well.

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lsu-i-like

Yes.

Health care is a clusterf*ck. I don't believe McCain would have significantly changed that. We have a mortal wound and band-aids aren't going to fix it.

Neither was McCain. We will see how Obama does with foreign policy; I'm willing to bet he'll do much better than itchy twitchy finger McCain. Obama appeals to the hearts and minds of foreign citizens much better than McCain would have. Of course they want to see actions rather than words, but nice words do have a kind of calming effect. Obama's words will mean little to foreign leaders, but if they effect those leaders' people, their people will affect them. To some degree, you see this in Iran.

Like I said, I'm willing to give Obama time. The alternative wasn't much better as far as domestic spending. I want real change across the board and neither of the two major parties offered that.

LSUDeek

Gobbledygook. An insurance company may not call a condition pre-existing unless there was a diagnosis made prior to the person having coverage or the person's coverage lapsed for a period of time and then they tried to obtain new coverage.

People willingly drop insurance and are stuck with the bills later on all of the time. My sister in law has psoriatic arthritis. So does my FIL.

My in-laws dropped coverage for about 2 years back in 1991 or thereabouts. When they got it again, her psoriatic arthritis isn't covered because their insurance lapsed, not because her dad has it.


I'm in the health care field, slick. You better quit while you are far behind.

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LSUMASTERMIND

So there has to be a lapse in coverage for them to deem something preexisiting?
Is their a time limit on how long ago the lapse occured?
I still think thats unfair, unless doctors can prove that the illness occured during the period with no insurance.
I can admit when Im proved wrong about something. You should try it sometimes.

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LSUDeek

You can not believe it all you want, but speaking as a person who has worked for a private payor as well as from the clinical side, the interstate competition for health insurance would significantly reduce costs. With Louisiana in particular, our DOI is quite corrupt and would most likely cease to exist in its current form under the McCain plan.

With health care spending as the top dollar outlay, you would have to not believe him in order to believe that.


This is a complete joke.


Nobody should give two sh1ts about this.

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LSUDeek

Yes, or no coverage.

Yes. I think it's 90 days in the state of Louisiana. but don't quote me on that.

You may be able to appeal if the following are true:

1) the initial diagnosis was made during a period in which you had insurance

2) you are able to prove that you continued to have the diagnosis well treated and under control during the period of time in which you did not have insurance

Again, I liken it to having a tree fall on your car and then buying comprehensive and expecting it to get covered.

Whenever you prove me wrong about something, I'll admit it.

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lsu-i-like

It isn't a matter of someone's opinion affecting truth, it is a matter of respecting someone's opinion when you aren't quite sure what the truth is.

1. To some extent he is able to disarm hatred.
2. Of course it matters that he can have a positive affect on the opinion of foreigners. Thoughts and feelings have a way of becoming realized.
3. Hatred is a human flaw, but it is small minded to consider everyone who hates America an idiot.

There will always be those who hate America for irrational reasons, for ignorant reasons, or for things we have done in the past. But by providing less fodder for extremist recruiters, their job becomes harder and our job becomes easier.

How America is perceived abroad does matter, as it will affect foreign relations. It will affect our ability to ally ourselves with others. It will reduce the compassion others have for us when we are in need. Those are all small things, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss them. I know your world view doesn't mesh with that, but I think you are in the minority. Most people, at home and abroad, appreciate respect and compassionate and dignified action.

You are a minority so while your ideas about life and the world might seem right on for you, most people don't share your nihilistic worldview.

In the end, there is a lot to be said for might, but it is most powerful when paired with diplomacy.

lsu-i-like

Ok, but I'm doubtful.

Yes.

Why?

Why not? Bush put us on shaky ground in the international community. We aren't exactly steaming healthily ahead either. It is foolish to blow off the rest of the world. We should have self esteem and our own set of convictions, but we should treat the nations with whom we share the world with respect.

LSUDeek

Completely inexperienced and unprepared to deal with the current world situation.

Respect, yes. Should the American President kiss and bow to the Saudi King? Should the American President worry about whether or not the French people like him and support him????

NO.

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SabanFan

It's like prison: The more liked you are the more you get your fudge packed.

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lsu-i-like

He seems to be doing ok, but we'll see.

??? I agree??? I don't think Obama is losing sleep over the opinion of French people, though his demeanor better appeals to a larger range of people. There is a difference in treating people with respect and being incapacitated by touchy-feely-ness. As far as kissing and bowing to the Saudi king, I don't know the custom or what Obama has done, but they are an ally, aren't they? I remember seeing video of Bush with some Middle East folks and he looked pretty foolish. Has Obama continued that trend?

LSUMASTERMIND

Bush gave the Saudi king the reach around..lol

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red55

This is an example of you trying to characterize one's answers and thinking as a part of your question. Ask an honest question and you will get an honest answer.

I give you answers and responses by the ton, you just won't accept them and then cry that it's my "fear of actual principles" rather than my rejection of your principles.

I love him because he won't let you get away with your propaganda style comments. You'd make a good writer for the North Koreans.

He's made it clear that Obama hasn't spent more than Bush yet. You have to make projections into the future to make this claim.

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red55

When did he defend domestic wiretapping?

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martin

you are basically advocating cowardice.

there is no country on earth that foes not fear and respect the power of the US. that is all that matters.

or perhaps you are saying that resistance to terrorism creates terrorism, so we should not resist?

nothing negative comes of out a poor image overseas, which doesnt exist anyways. what exactly do you think we need a happy image for? so people will trade with us? they are already desperate to trade with us, because it makes them rich.

you are mindlessy repeating another thing that has no reas significance. it simply doesnt matter. there are no negative consequences if foreign idiots do not like us.

russia is basically run by crazy gangsters at this point. does anyone in the international community care? no. saddam was a murdering tyrant, did anyone besides the US care? nope. france was so happy with saddam that they did all kinda of huge business with him. nobody cares about this "national image" or whatever. it isnt important. there are no actual effects if the world community hates you.

but the fact is the wold community loves us, except for some vocal lunatics. i have heard their complaints: "the US is a tyrant, more frightening to the world community that iraq". these folks are idiots and you should ignore them.

like barack obama says, the US is still the best country in the world. everyone knows that.

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martin

try to keep up with the news:

"The Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and establish a program of eavesdropping on Americans without warrants. In a filing in San Francisco federal court, President Barack Obama adopted the same position as his predecessor."

Obama Sides With Bush in Spy Case | Threat Level | Wired.com

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martin

you probably should just forget it instead of continuing to talk about it. we all know how you operate. you are just reminding everyone and embarrassing yourself.

i told you already i am happy you have a new friend.

thanks, i am a good writer.

i bought two yachts on my credit card today. but i havent spent the money yet, it is still in my bank account! i would have to make a crazy projection to figure out that i am actually spending like a madman.

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red55

No. I'll respond each and every time you give me the opportunity to shoot your argument full of holes. Which is often, which is why I love you, too.

But if you plan to buy two yachts next year, then you aren't in debt this year. You may still be mad, but you haven't outspent your predecessor yet.

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LSUAthletics

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office projects Obama will spend way more than Bush. Do you think the CBO has over estimated spending? What signs do you see, if any, that their estimates are too high? Again, I don't understand your seemingly lack of concern for these huge deficit projections unless you don't have confidence in the CBO's projections. How can you be the big proponent of proper balance and be content with Obama's fiscal policies and the enormous deficits that will result? We've seen post after post from you attacking Bush on his mismanagement of the economy. Time to show some proper balance and start critiquing Obama's fiscal policies.


Big Deficit Projection Tests Obama Agenda - WSJ.com

martin

like i have said before, if we lived in a country where the two extremes were incredibly intense radical murderous islam, and slightly less radical islam, red would be positioned perfectly opposed to both those extremes, as a moderately loony radical islaimist that only liked to murder a reasonable and prudent number of infidels per year. not too many killings, but not too few. extremes are no good.

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lsu-i-like

I'm not surprised that you see it as such. You have a cynical point of view.

Because we police the world? It could be that we have a bunch of nukes and are relatively rich, though the later is becoming less true by the day, and as such, that fear and respect is dwindling. I'm all for a strong military, just not for interventionism. We spend a lot of money policing the world that could go toward domestic programs and programs that would create more stability in our country. But at the same time we are run by a corrupt or misguided bunch too.

Policing the world shows a certain arrogance on our part and a certain disrespect for other nations.

You think the US can do no wrong and that the prosperity we have enjoyed is guaranteed to endure. I disagree.

I am not mindlessy repeating anything.

It does matter, but most countries are more concerned about #1. We can't run around the world trying to make it better without spending a lot of money. Apparently you are ok with government spending tax dollars trying to make other countries better at the expense of our domestic situation. That is typical of republocrats.

Bandit88

Actually....that is typical of Democrats (I notice you've combined the words... )

It's this Neocon hangover that has the Republicans tied up with interventionism.

I'm a big believer in protecting (sometimes aggressively) our national interests. Beyond that, let the idiots be idiots if it doesn't impact our interests and security. We can get back to lending them the money to rebuild after they slaughter each other.

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