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Old 01-03-2007, 09:01 AM   #1
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What coaches were on Saban's staff that are still at LSU? Jimbo and Searels right? BIGTIME recruiters... I worry that they may bring some of LSU's guys with them to Alabama. I also worry about Phelon Jones, who is a DB from Bama... Could he decide to stay at home to play for a DB-supercoach?
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What coaches were on Saban's staff that are still at LSU? Jimbo and Searels right? BIGTIME recruiters... I worry that they may bring some of LSU's guys with them to Alabama. I also worry about Phelon Jones, who is a DB from Bama... Could he decide to stay at home to play for a DB-supercoach?
I also wonder that about Jones. I also wonder how this will affect LSU next year? Meaning, with his ties in Louisiana, I wonder if Saban will be able to steal away some of the states top talent. Also, lets be honest here. Saban is percieved as a great coach. People are still unsure when it comes to Miles. Will Saban at Bama come in to play for the states top talent? Hopefully he doesnt get to Sears and Fisher.
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I also wonder that about Jones. I also wonder how this will affect LSU next year? Meaning, with his ties in Louisiana, I wonder if Saban will be able to steal away some of the states top talent. Also, lets be honest here. Saban is percieved as a great coach. People are still unsure when it comes to Miles. Will Saban at Bama come in to play for the states top talent? Hopefully he doesnt get to Sears and Fisher.
I am not worried about Jimbo and Searles leaving. I am worried about Jones and how effective Saban will be recruiting in Louisiana and throughout the SEC. But Miles has proven himself to be a pretty effective recruiter himself.
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Default Re: Saban Recruiting concerns....

Nick will be no more effective than any other top out-of-state coach who recruits Louisiana, I figure. What he'll be effective at is taking the cream of the crop in Alabama. The Mobile area is only 3 hours from Louisiana and LSU has always recruited well there. Nick could change that and make it his turf.

Another top recruiter in the West Division sucks, but I don't think he'll take many blue chips out of Louisiana. Not as long as LSU remains a contender.
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And let's not forget that Saban missed RP and it was Miles who changed him.
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Nick will be no more effective than any other top out-of-state coach who recruits Louisiana, I figure. What he'll be effective at is taking the cream of the crop in Alabama. The Mobile area is only 3 hours from Louisiana and LSU has always recruited well there. Nick could change that and make it his turf.

Another top recruiter in the West Division sucks, but I don't think he'll take many blue chips out of Louisiana. Not as long as LSU remains a contender.
his making Alabama a contender will make Auburn what Alabama used to be... the usual 8-4 team...

Thsi all balances out... There's only so many W's to go around.
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his making Alabama a contender will make Auburn what Alabama used to be... the usual 8-4 team...

Thsi all balances out... There's only so many W's to go around.
Good point, I surely hope it plays out that way. I definitely think AU has more to be worried about than us.
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Nick will be no more effective than any other top out-of-state coach who recruits Louisiana, I figure. What he'll be effective at is taking the cream of the crop in Alabama. The Mobile area is only 3 hours from Louisiana and LSU has always recruited well there. Nick could change that and make it his turf.

Another top recruiter in the West Division sucks, but I don't think he'll take many blue chips out of Louisiana. Not as long as LSU remains a contender.
What are the chances this could backfire on Nick Saban.
Meaning that he might not be successful recruiting in Louisiana because
of this whole fiasco from the start, leaving LSU, to Miami, to Bama.
The whole state of Louisiana has to feel a little ticked off if nothing else
the way these situations were handled.
Makes Nick look like someone you can't trust, believe his word.
Gets an offer and he may move in the middle of the night?
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Default Re: Saban Recruiting concerns....

I don't think Saban will reel in the great classes at Bama that he did at LSU. In Louisiana he had a deep talent pool and no in-state competition. That was one of the major reasons he came here. He will not have that luxury at Bama. Tubberville recruits well and has a program where a recruit can "win now" (in the even years). We may lose a top blue chipper here and there, but we'll pull some as well. I don't think this will have a great effect on our in state recruiting.
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Default Re: Saban Recruiting concerns....

It would be foolish to think he won't have success recruiting kids to Bama. Despite what Auburn fans say, kids in Bama grow up wanting to play for Bama. And he proved at LSU he can recruit nationally.

I'm sure there will be much negative recruiting against Saban about his credibility issue. However, the type of kids he'll be recruiting are those who have NFL aspirations. Saban proved he can get kids to the NFL.

He'll have an average recruiting class this year, but I wouldn't bet against him starting next recruiting class.
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I don't think Saban will reel in the great classes at Bama that he did at LSU.
No, but he knows his way around.

A dollar says that he's already made a call to Joe McKnight.
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However, the type of kids he'll be recruiting are those who have NFL aspirations. Saban proved he can get kids to the NFL.

He'll have an average recruiting class this year, but I wouldn't bet against him starting next recruiting class.
Les Miles gets players to the NFL too. I also believe Miles is a better recruiter. The parents like him more & more importantly trust him. Some of Saban 's classes have been plain terrible as far as the attrition rate.
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How'd that work out at the end of the iowa game a few years ago?
Lets see

LCB: Corey Webster... NFL
RCB: Travis Daniels... NFL
SS: Jessie Daniels... NFL Draft Prospect
FS: Laron Landry... NFL Draft Prospect
Nickle Back: Ronnie Prude... NFL

Damn seems like it worked out pretty well for the players
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[quote=red55;531044]No, but he knows his way around.

A dollar says that he's already made a call to Joe McKnight.[/quote]

No doubt about either point, red. But one would have to think that "Bama's new coach" will have at least some problems defending his character and integrity to recruits, and their families.
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No, but he knows his way around.

A dollar says that he's already made a call to Joe McKnight.[/quote]

No doubt about either point, red. But one would have to think that "Bama's new coach" will have at least some problems defending his character and integrity to recruits, and their families.


today is a good example of overeaction that the media does on an hourly basis. when a team loses, they overreact and pick the prettiest team that won to be the top contenders for the super bowl til they lose. carolina, then chicago, then dallas with romo, now romo sucks, then the saints, now phili.


kids will go to bama because saban gets kids in the nfl and has nfl quitter's experience as a hc now as well. no coach is guaranteed to stay anywhere and if Lloyd Carr was canned today and they offered the Michigan job to Lester, theres a good chance he bails.

Then, we'd have very similar feelings even if Les handled it in a much more respectable way.

kids will go to a university where they feel they have the best shot to make the next level. the coach is lagniappe and nick is as good of lagniappe as you can get.


nick will have a top recruiting class every year after this year. you can book it. he's a mad recruiter and is taking our best recruiting coach in jimbo with him.
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