Saban Recruiting concerns....

locoguano

What coaches were on Saban's staff that are still at LSU? Jimbo and Searels right? BIGTIME recruiters... I worry that they may bring some of LSU's guys with them to Alabama. I also worry about Phelon Jones, who is a DB from Bama... Could he decide to stay at home to play for a DB-supercoach?

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bayou_bandit74

I also wonder that about Jones. I also wonder how this will affect LSU next year? Meaning, with his ties in Louisiana, I wonder if Saban will be able to steal away some of the states top talent. Also, lets be honest here. Saban is percieved as a great coach. People are still unsure when it comes to Miles. Will Saban at Bama come in to play for the states top talent? Hopefully he doesnt get to Sears and Fisher.

Bengal Buddy

I am not worried about Jimbo and Searles leaving. I am worried about Jones and how effective Saban will be recruiting in Louisiana and throughout the SEC. But Miles has proven himself to be a pretty effective recruiter himself.

red55

Nick will be no more effective than any other top out-of-state coach who recruits Louisiana, I figure. What he'll be effective at is taking the cream of the crop in Alabama. The Mobile area is only 3 hours from Louisiana and LSU has always recruited well there. Nick could change that and make it his turf.

Another top recruiter in the West Division sucks, but I don't think he'll take many blue chips out of Louisiana. Not as long as LSU remains a contender.

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lsutiga

And let's not forget that Saban missed RP and it was Miles who changed him.

clair

his making Alabama a contender will make Auburn what Alabama used to be... the usual 8-4 team...

Thsi all balances out... There's only so many W's to go around.

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lsutiga

Good point, I surely hope it plays out that way. I definitely think AU has more to be worried about than us.

Sourdoughman

What are the chances this could backfire on Nick Saban.
Meaning that he might not be successful recruiting in Louisiana because
of this whole fiasco from the start, leaving LSU, to Miami, to Bama.
The whole state of Louisiana has to feel a little ticked off if nothing else
the way these situations were handled.
Makes Nick look like someone you can't trust, believe his word.
Gets an offer and he may move in the middle of the night?

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LSUsupaFan

I don't think Saban will reel in the great classes at Bama that he did at LSU. In Louisiana he had a deep talent pool and no in-state competition. That was one of the major reasons he came here. He will not have that luxury at Bama. Tubberville recruits well and has a program where a recruit can "win now" (in the even years). We may lose a top blue chipper here and there, but we'll pull some as well. I don't think this will have a great effect on our in state recruiting.

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TigerWins

It would be foolish to think he won't have success recruiting kids to Bama. Despite what Auburn fans say, kids in Bama grow up wanting to play for Bama. And he proved at LSU he can recruit nationally.

I'm sure there will be much negative recruiting against Saban about his credibility issue. However, the type of kids he'll be recruiting are those who have NFL aspirations. Saban proved he can get kids to the NFL.

He'll have an average recruiting class this year, but I wouldn't bet against him starting next recruiting class.

red55

No, but he knows his way around.

A dollar says that he's already made a call to Joe McKnight.

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Perple

Les Miles gets players to the NFL too. I also believe Miles is a better recruiter. The parents like him more & more importantly trust him. Some of Saban 's classes have been plain terrible as far as the attrition rate.

lsugrad00

Lets see

LCB: Corey Webster... NFL
RCB: Travis Daniels... NFL
SS: Jessie Daniels... NFL Draft Prospect
FS: Laron Landry... NFL Draft Prospect
Nickle Back: Ronnie Prude... NFL

Damn seems like it worked out pretty well for the players

Fishhead

[quote=red55;531044]No, but he knows his way around.

A dollar says that he's already made a call to Joe McKnight.[/quote]

No doubt about either point, red. But one would have to think that "Bama's new coach" will have at least some problems defending his character and integrity to recruits, and their families.

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tirk

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today is a good example of overeaction that the media does on an hourly basis. when a team loses, they overreact and pick the prettiest team that won to be the top contenders for the super bowl til they lose. carolina, then chicago, then dallas with romo, now romo sucks, then the saints, now phili.


kids will go to bama because saban gets kids in the nfl and has nfl quitter's experience as a hc now as well. no coach is guaranteed to stay anywhere and if Lloyd Carr was canned today and they offered the Michigan job to Lester, theres a good chance he bails.

Then, we'd have very similar feelings even if Les handled it in a much more respectable way.

kids will go to a university where they feel they have the best shot to make the next level. the coach is lagniappe and nick is as good of lagniappe as you can get.


nick will have a top recruiting class every year after this year. you can book it. he's a mad recruiter and is taking our best recruiting coach in jimbo with him.

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LSUHotdog

Keep in mind also that Saban's reputation has taken a huge hit as he is officially the new Larry Brown of football. Whenever the highest offer comes he is gone before the door slams shut. Recruits will now always question his loyalty to a program and he will never be able to repair that and recruit as effectively as he did when he was here.

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tirk

watch and see. thats an overreaction. one or two kids wont make a significant difference. dude is a pipeline to the nfl which is the main interest of your top athletes. they are motivated by money before integrity just like st. prick.

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TigerWins

The rumors of Saban to the NFL didn't hurt his recruiting at LSU. Schools used that against him year after year to no avail.

Bottom line is Saban is one helluva recruiter. He's a smooth talker. He can close the deal. Yeah, he made lose one or two recuits, but he'll more than make up for that.

Sourdoughman

Unfortunately he doesn't have to be a recruiter meaning that he's been to the
NFL recently and in the past and with his reputation of sending LSU talent to
the NFL he probably won't have any trouble in the future.
I think Auburn will take a pretty good hit recruiting wise.

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TigerWins

Should be fun to watch the recruiting war between Saban and Tubby, supposedly two good friends.

I think Auburn may once again take a back seat to Bama for a few years ... till Saban leaves.

tirk

not sure if thats referring to my stance but if so you're confused. Certainly saban needed LSU as much as we needed him but there is no question saban is a quality coach. a quitter and a liar, but a good coach.

I think he falls back to earth as well but he wont be a failure at bama. I could win 8 games with their recruiting base and saban will win at least 9 or 10 once his recruits roll in.

no one thinks he will destroy LSU recruiting but make no mistake, he will cherry pick a top few each year at the very worst. Like FSU did for years.

Its just how its gonna be.

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LSUHotdog

Yeah I guess we'll see. I think his rep is trashed and recruits will constantly be reminded of this. He will call McKnight and Chad Jones tonight but in the end it will be to no avail. After a couple years things might get better, but for now it's something every SEC head coach will hang his hat on.

The people I am worried about losing in Searles and Jimbo. I'm sure Saban made sure he could pay top dollar to get the top assistants at Bama, so I think the total fallout is yet to be felt.

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tirk

agree with this. Jimbo is a goner. This whole orchestrated event is likely the reason Jimbo was holding out. All by design possibly.

One of Nick's first demand was reported yesterday to be an unlimited budget, per se, to hire assistants. mal moore gladly bent over with no ky on that one. they had to comply with every saban wish because they had to land the guy at all costs.

saban will have a top staff for a year at least


OC-jimbo

O-Line--Searels

TE --freddie kitchens

RB--Bobby williams

QB- tom clements from the packers

DC--Todd stroud from NC St

D-Line- Tracy rocker @ ark

DB--kirby smart from UGA

LB--travis jones from miami with nick

str & cond--bert hill from the fins


some gump sent me this info.

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LSUDeek

That would be an NCAA violation

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LSUDeek

Losing Tommy Moffit would be our biggest concern.

The O-Line play has not been consistently good enough to win championships over the past three years, and we know what the offense has looked like at times despite our overabundance of talent.

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