2009 Saints Thread

DarkHornet · 05-12-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUMASTERMIND

Yep, all of that looks good on paper. But it has to translate to the field which hasnt happened in a long time for my Saints. All of those +++++ doesnt =wins. Seeing is believing.

Of course, I just don't see the grounds for saying this team will do worse this year than they did last. That's all. If you want to say they won't be that much improved, an argument could be made. I'd disagree, but an argument can be made. But to say that we're going to be worse? Ignorant. (that would be aimed at Peter King, not you)

LSUMASTERMIND · 05-12-2009, 08:04 AM

I can agree with that, I want them to improve myself, but the wool has been pulled over my eyes far too many times with the Saints. I hoping for a better year and a better run franchise.

DownOnTheBayou · 05-13-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkHornet

Name me one place on defense where we downgraded?

We still have Will Smith and Charles Grant. That's a downgrade every year they stay with the team.

On paper the Saints look a lot better than last year. But I agree with MM, the Saints have under-performed way too many times for me to get too excited.

The Saints should be a playoff team this year, but we all know shoulda, coulda, woulda...

mctiger · 05-21-2009, 02:54 PM

OTA's under way. From Mike Triplett, nola.com:

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The offense and defense were getting after each other, with new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' influence being seen and heard. He was constantly encouraging aggressive play from the defensive players, who scooped up every ball that hit the turf and ran toward the end zone.

No tackling was allowed during the session, but Williams kept letting defenders know that if it was live action, it would be their job to level the offensive players.

I find these comments very encouraging. Williams is already making an impact on our team.

khounba · 05-22-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mctiger

OTA's under way. From Mike Triplett, nola.com:

I find these comments very encouraging. Williams is already making an impact on our team.

Top 15 defense = playoffs.
Top 10 defense = playoff wins.
Top 5 = Super Bowl Baby.

BAY0U BENGAL · 05-23-2009, 04:41 AM

Article about Pierre Thomas in today's paper. I still like him more than I do Reggie in the backfield, though

Thomas, bigger, embraces challenge to run inside - AP - NOLA.com

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Last season, Thomas' playing weight was around 210 pounds. Now with a more barrel-chested look, the result of a new weightlifting regimen, Thomas said he weighs between 220 and 225, pushing beyond the limit coaches had set for him.
"Hopefully, they'll raise up my weight limit to 225, but I don't know yet," the 5-foot-11 Thomas said. "I'm going by their rules, but I'm trying to show them I can play with this weight."
For now, there are no full-contact practices. That begins in training camp. Until then, it can be tough for running backs-especially those trying to show they can be human battering rams-to know how well they're doing.
Sharing carries with Bush, Thomas was the Saints' leading rusher in 2008, gaining 625 yards on 129 carries, an average of 4.8 yards per carry. His nine rushing touchdowns also led the Saints and one of those scoring runs went for 42 yards, his longest run of the season.
Thomas had a few glaring failures in crucial short-yardage situations during losses at Washington and Denver last season, but head coach Sean Payton said he thought the main problem with those particular plays had more to do with blocking than Thomas' running ability in the clutch.

Cajun Sensation · 05-25-2009, 04:31 AM

I can almost guarantee you that this had something to do with some sort of prescription pill overdose:

New Orleans Saints' Jeremy Shockey treated, released from hospital - ESPN

BAY0U BENGAL · 05-25-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Sensation

I can almost guarantee you that this had something to do with some sort of prescription pill overdose

Probably. Shockey IS a sport's hernia

HatcherTiger · 05-27-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnTheBayou

The Saints should be a playoff team this year, but we all know shoulda, coulda, woulda...

"The Saints ain't good enough. We're close, and close don't mean ****. I'm tired of coming close. I'm pissed off right now. You bet your ass I am. I'm sick of coulda, woulda, shoulda, coming close, if only".

Jim Mora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_E._Mora

stevescookin · 05-27-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HatcherTiger

"The Saints ain't good enough. We're close, and close don't mean ****. I'm tired of coming close. I'm pissed off right now. You bet your ass I am. I'm sick of coulda, woulda, shoulda, coming close, if only".

Jim Mora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_E._Mora

Top 15 defense = playoffs. COULDA !
Top 10 defense = playoff wins. WOULDA!
Top 5 = Super Bowl Baby.

SHOULDA!

mctiger · 05-29-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HatcherTiger

Jim Mora

Diddley-poo

Cajun Sensation · 05-31-2009, 09:16 PM

Here is a good video to watch during the offseason, I guess:

Brees, Saints Ready For 2009 - ESPN Video - ESPN

A couple of highlights of the interview with Drew Brees...they talk about:

-Apparently Reggie Bush guaranteed a trip to the SuperBowl on Regis and Kelly
-They talk about Vick to New Orleans rumors (Brees said that Vick deserves a 2nd chance whether it be with the Saints or elsewhere)
-They talk about his hair (Brees looks like a character from the movie "KingPin" in this interview
-They talk about how Drew Brees used to wear Andy Roddick out in tennis back in the day in Austin, Tx.

pjnchamps · 06-02-2009, 10:45 AM

NFL lawyers: No immediate action against 2 Vikings

NFL lawyers: No immediate action against 2 Vikings - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

BAY0U BENGAL · 06-08-2009, 06:52 AM

This got me a little excited for the season

New Orleans Saints' defense promises to be more versatile this season - New Orleans Saints Beat

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If nothing else, the Saints' new-look defense will be diverse this season.
They lined up in several formations over the course of their three-day minicamp, including a healthy amount of 3-4 alignments. In one of their dime defensive packages Sunday, the Saints went with three linemen, two linebackers and six defensive backs.
"It's a trial-and-error thing right now, " said veteran safety Pierson Prioleau, who spent seven of the past eight years playing under new Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams in Buffalo, Washington and Jacksonville. "We're just trying a whole lot of new things right now. We're a long way from home. So we don't really even know what we're going to do in this defense.
"But you're definitely going to see the best variation of things that we can give you so we can get the best 11 on the field."

Cajun Sensation · 06-09-2009, 03:19 PM

Look like Dan Morgan is retiring.

Morgan will retire instead of play for Saints - News Updates - SunHerald.com

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NEW ORLEANS — Sports agent Drew Rosenhaus says New Orleans Saints linebacker Dan Morgan has decided to retire from the NFL a second time.
Rosenhaus announced Morgan’s decision on his Web site Monday, saying Morgan wanted to thank the Saints for another chance, but that injuries “would not let him continue.”
Saints spokesman Greg Bensel says the Saints have not received anything official from Morgan.

The 30-year-old Morgan first retired before last season after seven years with the Carolina Panthers because of multiple concussions. He was trying to make a comeback with the Saints, but left minicamp last weekend with a calf strain.
Morgan was the 11th overall draft pick by the Panthers in 2001.

Guess that's good in the sense that we can save some money and probably use it on a younger, healthier player.

Cajun Sensation · 06-15-2009, 05:08 PM

Saints short at center. Robert Meachem, Adrian Arrington, Colston and more:

Saints' rookie's career ends - News Updates - SunHerald.com

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METAIRIE, La. -- Rookie center Alex Fletcher's career with the New Orleans Saints apparently ended before it ever really got started.
The Saints placed Fletcher, an undrafted free agent from Stanford, on the reserve/retired list because of a serious kidney condition, coach Sean Payton said Monday.
Payton said that after an offseason workout Friday, Fletcher told the organization that he would have to retire.

"Alex has a medical issue and unfortunately for him he can't continue to play," Payton said Monday after the team's Organized Team Activity. "I'd rather not go into the specifics, but its pretty serious.
"He has one kidney and the one kidney he has needs some work. That becomes an immediate stop to playing football. I think he's going to be done playing football."
Fletcher, 6-3, 296 pounds, started all 44 games that he played in college.
New Orleans now finds itself short-handed at center as Nick Lackey, the only other backup to starter Jonathan Goodwin, underwent surgery to remove bone spurs from his right ankle. Lackey is expected to be able to practice when training camp begins July 30.
The Saints added depth at center by signing free agent Digger Bujnoch on Monday.
Bujnoch, 6-3, 296, was signed by the New York Giants as an undrafted free agent in 2008 and released last September. He was signed to the Bengals' practice squad last November and released last month.
Wide receiver Marques Colston missed the Saints' voluntary workout Monday, but was expected to return for Tuesday's practice, Payton said.
Wide receiver Robert Meachem was held out of team drills because of a slightly strained left hamstring sustained last week. Meanwhile, wide receiver Adrian Arrington (hamstring), defensive end Paul Spicer (groin), and tight end Dan Campbell (knee) remained sidelined. Cornerback Randall Gay, who had been sidelined by a sore knee, returned to practice.
The Saints have three more OTAs scheduled through Thursday. After that the players will be off until reporting for training camp.

BAY0U BENGAL · 06-15-2009, 10:40 PM

You really gotta hate it for him. 44 games and gets to the big time then this. Sad that his career ends for medical reasons while other turds blow their chances by doing dumb sht.

pjnchamps · 06-23-2009, 09:38 PM

Saints vs Eagles Playoff Game on NFL Network right now

pjnchamps · 06-24-2009, 10:30 AM

How many ppl would use a pick in the supplementary draft to take Jeremy Jarmon? I actually hope C.Surrency goes undrafted and we could sign him as a FA and try him out.

mctiger · 06-29-2009, 09:36 PM

Deep snapper Kevin Houser cut today:

New Orleans Saints release veteran long snapper Kevin Houser - New Orleans Saints Beat

Don't understand this one....about to become the most tenured player in franchise history, and gladly getting an important job done for the league minimum wage. And you cut him, and fill the spot with a guy who's 5 years older and will have to be paid even more. Anyone want to take a crack at explaining this move?

paradiseinc · 07-02-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mctiger

Deep snapper Kevin Houser cut today:

New Orleans Saints release veteran long snapper Kevin Houser - New Orleans Saints Beat

Don't understand this one....about to become the most tenured player in franchise history, and gladly getting an important job done for the league minimum wage. And you cut him, and fill the spot with a guy who's 5 years older and will have to be paid even more. Anyone want to take a crack at explaining this move?

This may explain it, from T-P today. All about moola, apparently, although it does not say 100% that it is the reason why he was cut.
More than two dozen with ties to the New Orleans Saints invested in movie studio deal - New Orleans Saints Beat

pjnchamps · 07-16-2009, 03:37 PM

Washington Redskins take Jeremy Jarmon in NFL supplemental draft - NFL - SI.com

Redskins take DE Jeremy Jarmon which will cost them a 3rd round pick next year which isnt that bad.

islstl · 07-26-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BAY0U BENGAL

Article about Pierre Thomas in today's paper. I still like him more than I do Reggie in the backfield, though

Thomas, bigger, embraces challenge to run inside - AP - NOLA.com

I am really excited to hear this.

We need a bruiser to hit in between the tackles, and at least now we have a back that can fit that mold.

Also takes a little pressure off Bush not having to take on that role so much.

islstl · 07-26-2009, 03:09 PM

Regarding the defense being improved or not, I am definitely in the Gregg Williams camp.

I believe he will do a bang up job and you will see a much improved defense on the field.

The Saints will win a minimum of 10 games and the sky is the limit depending on just how much better the defense is.

I think the Saints go into this season the best team in the NFC.

mctiger · 07-29-2009, 07:11 AM

ESPN's NFC South blogger held a readers' poll to select the division's All-Decade team.

Joe Horn, Jammal Brown and Jeff Faine were selected, along with Reggie Bush as the return specialist.
Delhomme narrowly beat out Brees.
Deuce placed second at tailback to Warrick Dunn
LeCharles Bentley got votes at center (along with Todd McClure, Tiger fans), and William Roaf got a few sentimental votes.

No Saints defensive players were mentioned.

NFC South - ESPN

05-12-2009, 08:04 AM	#52
LSUMASTERMIND Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 7,125	Re: 2009 Saints Thread I can agree with that, I want them to improve myself, but the wool has been pulled over my eyes far too many times with the Saints. I hoping for a better year and a better run franchise. __________________ -Henry Smith

05-25-2009, 04:31 AM	#57
Cajun Sensation Black & Gold SUPER BOWL! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 4,415	Re: 2009 Saints Thread I can almost guarantee you that this had something to do with some sort of prescription pill overdose: New Orleans Saints' Jeremy Shockey treated, released from hospital - ESPN __________________ WHO DAT!!!!!! ".....pumpers will be pumpers and negatigers will be negatigers, but the battle for the fans in the middle has begun and it will all depend on 2010." -LSUtiger327

05-31-2009, 09:16 PM	#62
Cajun Sensation Black & Gold SUPER BOWL! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 4,415	Re: 2009 Saints Thread Here is a good video to watch during the offseason, I guess: Brees, Saints Ready For 2009 - ESPN Video - ESPN A couple of highlights of the interview with Drew Brees...they talk about: -Apparently Reggie Bush guaranteed a trip to the SuperBowl on Regis and Kelly -They talk about Vick to New Orleans rumors (Brees said that Vick deserves a 2nd chance whether it be with the Saints or elsewhere) -They talk about his hair (Brees looks like a character from the movie "KingPin" in this interview -They talk about how Drew Brees used to wear Andy Roddick out in tennis back in the day in Austin, Tx. __________________ WHO DAT!!!!!! ".....pumpers will be pumpers and negatigers will be negatigers, but the battle for the fans in the middle has begun and it will all depend on 2010." -LSUtiger327

06-02-2009, 10:45 AM	#63
pjnchamps Registered Guest Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,812	Re: 2009 Saints Thread NFL lawyers: No immediate action against 2 Vikings NFL lawyers: No immediate action against 2 Vikings - NFL - Yahoo! Sports __________________

06-15-2009, 10:40 PM	#67
BAY0U BENGAL Fear the Hat Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pearl/Brandon, MS Posts: 1,732	Re: 2009 Saints Thread You really gotta hate it for him. 44 games and gets to the big time then this. Sad that his career ends for medical reasons while other turds blow their chances by doing dumb sht. __________________

06-23-2009, 09:38 PM	#68
pjnchamps Registered Guest Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,812	Re: 2009 Saints Thread Saints vs Eagles Playoff Game on NFL Network right now __________________

06-24-2009, 10:30 AM	#69
pjnchamps Registered Guest Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,812	Re: 2009 Saints Thread How many ppl would use a pick in the supplementary draft to take Jeremy Jarmon? I actually hope C.Surrency goes undrafted and we could sign him as a FA and try him out. __________________

06-29-2009, 09:36 PM	#70
mctiger #9, best QB in the world Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Morgan City Posts: 2,861	Re: 2009 Saints Thread Deep snapper Kevin Houser cut today: New Orleans Saints release veteran long snapper Kevin Houser - New Orleans Saints Beat Don't understand this one....about to become the most tenured player in franchise history, and gladly getting an important job done for the league minimum wage. And you cut him, and fill the spot with a guy who's 5 years older and will have to be paid even more. Anyone want to take a crack at explaining this move? __________________ Pronunciation guide: The interrogative "Who is that?" may be properly expressed as "Who Dat?" when the speaker is addressing someone who say dey gonna beat dem Saints.

07-16-2009, 03:37 PM	#72
pjnchamps Registered Guest Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,812	Re: 2009 Saints Thread Washington Redskins take Jeremy Jarmon in NFL supplemental draft - NFL - SI.com Redskins take DE Jeremy Jarmon which will cost them a 3rd round pick next year which isnt that bad. __________________

07-26-2009, 03:09 PM	#74
islstl Saints SB 44 Champs! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 26,123	Re: 2009 Saints Thread Regarding the defense being improved or not, I am definitely in the Gregg Williams camp. I believe he will do a bang up job and you will see a much improved defense on the field. The Saints will win a minimum of 10 games and the sky is the limit depending on just how much better the defense is. I think the Saints go into this season the best team in the NFC. __________________

07-29-2009, 07:11 AM	#75
mctiger #9, best QB in the world Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Morgan City Posts: 2,861	Re: 2009 Saints Thread ESPN's NFC South blogger held a readers' poll to select the division's All-Decade team. Joe Horn, Jammal Brown and Jeff Faine were selected, along with Reggie Bush as the return specialist. Delhomme narrowly beat out Brees. Deuce placed second at tailback to Warrick Dunn LeCharles Bentley got votes at center (along with Todd McClure, Tiger fans), and William Roaf got a few sentimental votes. No Saints defensive players were mentioned. NFC South - ESPN __________________ Pronunciation guide: The interrogative "Who is that?" may be properly expressed as "Who Dat?" when the speaker is addressing someone who say dey gonna beat dem Saints.

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