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friedriches

But no, there is no way to get HDMI out without having one of the newer "Jasper" consoles which come with a built-in HDMI out.

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MadCatz Xbox 360 HDMI Conversion kit now officially available

No guarantees on how well it works, but it can be done.

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Friedriches et al,

What can you tell me about surround sound systems? Are you familiar with the soundbar units? Are they worth the price for a smaller room? Do you really need a 7.1 channel receiver with HDMI capabilities?

I want to add a new surround sound unit to two rooms but will never use it in both at the same time unless it's the same program...like a football game. Should I go with a quality receiver with a splitter or....?

Any suggestions would be appreciated!!!

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DRC

POS. There is no benefit of converting analog component to digital HDMI. It wont improve the analog signal one bit and you wont get 1080p. You would be better off saving the $100 on that thing and putting it towards an new xbox.

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First question to ask in any situation like this, whats your budget?

The soundbars are OK but pale in comparison to a nice 5.1 or 7.1 system. I have always had a good surround system. My current setup is Denon receiver, Mirage speakers and Velodyne sub. Its really nice and shows off movies in all their glory.

Even in a small room the benefits of 5.1 or 7.1 are very noticeable. You dont have to go 7.1, 5.1 is completely fine. My room is setup great for 7.1 because of its shape so thats why I went that route.

Outputting simultaneously to multiple speaker sources is a different issue. If you want/need an audio/video receiver that has that capability you are going to pay big bucks. Some receivers will output in 5.1 and then have a second set of phantom outputs you can put in another room or use in 7.1. You can use a speaker distribution amp too but they are not that economical. Its almost a better idea to have two receivers (thats what I have). You can buy a really cheap AVR for secondary output in another room, outside or whatever. I have my sat receiver outputting HDMI to my Denon for my main room and then analog audio to my second receiver that feeds my 4 outside speakers. I just leave the second receiver in 7 channel stereo to get the proper sound balance and I can listen to whats being broadcast on my big screen in the Den which is just a couple steps through French doors to my patio. Its great for football games when you can wonder in and out watching and listening.

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Crip*TEAM KATT

We just bought a blu ray when the Hammond Best Buy opened got the 2nd best Samsung they sell (I am a Samsung believer)

Anyway we got it hooked up to a 56 Mistubuisi (sp) and to see if there was a true difference I bought a blu ray that I already had the dvd of left the dvd player hooked up and played both movies.

They were both on HDMI and the tv is only 720 and there is a HUGE difference.

So much so that we are planning on moving the 56 into the bedroom..get rid of the 50 projection style tv that is in there now and getting a 56 Samsung for the living room now the problem is which one.

Those LEDs are AWSOME and dont compare to anything around but that price is just outragous!! SO its either settle for an LCD now OR wait til around Christmas or even next year to get the LED when the price comes down!

Oh and if you want to see the Blu Ray in action if you have the right tv and connected with a HDMI....WATCH THE NEW HULK MOVIE!!!

The scene when he is fighting the tanks in the open field makes all the money worth it....it looks like you are hiding behind one of the tvs watching everything unfold right before your eyes!!!!

Now we just need some porn for blu ray!!!!


I dont know if all Blu Rays do it but ours can connect to Netflix and Pandora

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crawfish

your computer monitor isn't clear enough?

Bengal B

The genital warts don't show up nearly as well on your monitor as the do with Blu-Ray

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No it works just not very comfortable when the wife wants to watch too

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You can get 1080p from component. Most TVs don't support it, but it does exist.

I don't think the Xbox will do 1080p over component though.

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DRC

Hmmm...I dont think this is exactly right.

Maybe you can technically transport a 1080p signal over a component cable but your player wont output it AND your display wont accept it. In other words, you can not play a bluray disc in 1080p resolution over a component connection to any display through any player. Can the component cable support 1080p? I think that may be true but it wont do you any good if the player wont pass it along and the display wont show it.

I would have to look into this a little more for the technicalities but I think I'm basically right.

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It is technically possible to do 1080p over component. DRM (AACS) and other crap prevents it from happening on the Bluray end, and many TVs don't support it. The PS3 will allow 1080p over component for games, but will revert to 1080i for protected Bluray movies.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=675595
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video

The problem with component video (according to Hollywood) is that it's too easy to copy because it's an analog format.

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DRC

Which sounds exactly right. HDCP strikes again. They dont want you copying movies in 1080p, games they dont care about. So in the end, you cant get 1080p over component for movies, which is what I said to begin with.

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Also, the last Xbox update enabled 1080p over component, so the original device I posted that started all of this nonsense actually could produce 1080p over HDMI from component input. It may or may not still be a POS, but it would work (except for that pesky sound thing I assume).

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This is known as the "analog hole". There is currently one device to exploit it for recording on your computer, the Hauppauge HD-PVR. From what I understand, it sort of works, but it's cheaply made, unreliable, and the fan they added to help with reliability is noisy. (The fan is the final nail in its coffin for my purposes.) It also doesn't work with XP/Vista Media Center, though ISTR some company has written a driver for Windows 7 Media Center that allows it to be used as a normal tuner.

DRC

Why would you want that? It would only be useful for games since the Xbox doesnt have a blulray player. I think most people get bluray for movies, not games. I still say take your $100 bucks and put it towards a bluray player for movies.

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I was simply answering the question below, which pertained to the 360 and not necessarily the movies. I don't know why his 360 isn't compatible with this particular TV (does it really not have component and/or VGA inputs?), but if Mastermind really wants to hook his old school 360 up over HDMI, he can do it. Of course he can also sell that 360 and buy a new one.

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DRC

Sorry man, I didnt mean to pick a nit or anything. I forgot about MM's original question.

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pharpe

I don't know about 1080p but I have used both HDMI and component cables to connect my TV to my AT&T Uverse which goes up to 1080i. Both types connect at 1080i and I have seen no difference at all. This is on a 56" Samsung TV using generic cables.

And no, I'm not the person that looks at 1080 HD and says, "I don't see how this is any better than Standard Def."