How UF Handled Zook, LSU Should Handle Miles

LEGACY TIGER

I think if you look at the header on the forum, and remember how pissed you are at the results of the last yr game, you can start to focus that level of pissed offness on a much worthier cause. BEATING THE SNOT OUT OF THE PIGGIES. REVENGE WILL BE OURS.

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Nutriaitch

8 + 5 = 13
8 + 5 = 13
4 + 3 = 7

13 + 13 + 7 = 20


thanks for proving you're an idiot

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TwistedTiger

Since you seem to be the self appointed expert on coaching, who do you hire?

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LARC

MFn G I M P

will people stop using the auburn game with Flynn a couple of years ago as evidence of Miles's horrible coaching?

As I recall (And I was in the student section possibly a little drunk so my memory may not be 100%) it was Flynn who let the clock run down not Miles. The play was called and the team was lined up with plenty of time on the clock. Should miles have called a TO when flynn was taking forever to snap it? debatable but not really evidence of his horrible clock management skills.

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TigerCliff

thank you

I hear this all the time. 17 sec when Flynn went to the line.

Throw it to the end zone and see if we get it! What is the problem with that?

Well Flynn let the clock go down to 9 sec before he snapped the ball.

Nothing wrong with Les on this at all.

LSUpathdoc

Sorry guys I put that on the coach to call a time out and regroup to get the correct play called. It is at this point, relatively non issue because Flynn made an amazing throw and Byrd makes an amazing catch. If they don't connect then we call out the coach for a questionable call. But again just my opinion.

I dont know if you are referring to me when you say "people" but I didn't site this as Miles being a horrible coach. I did however question whether or not it was a ballsy call or just stupid luck.

Richdog

don't forget arkansas

Bayou Tiger

You're just the opposite. You're the biggest sunshine pumper on here with sweeping generalizations with little substance. It's like a survey, you can throw out the highest and lowest scores, you two or at each end of the spectrum.

TC, I have no problem with taking off colored glasses but man, you're like that parent that cannot be satisfied.


You're right and that's a very classy outlook you take. Course, you are one of the classiest posters here, not that there's not plenty but just to point out. Your husband must either love football or not like it at all. lol



And you, sir, have been doing a SPLENDID job not letting them lil negatigers git to you. Never let them see you sweat, nothing makes them happier to think they've gotten to you.

COramprat

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LEGACY TIGER

You're correct, my posts are intelligent. I look at the body of work as a whole. I don't just take 2 seasons out of 5 and decide that the coach isn't worth a crap. I look at the good and the bad. I also, don't just use one post to make a generalization. If you look at all of my posts from this past couple of days, the criticism towards Miles and his shortcomings a very much spelled out.

Taking off the P & G glasses isn't a problem for me. Using common sense and using rational thinking to post objective opinions is just something I try to practice. Do the tc's of the world have a place amongst the sunshine pumpers, of course they do. We need someone to bring us down a notch to reality every now and then. But to me, it's just a game, not something so self consuming that I must obsess with wanting to have the coach fired for not living up to my wants.

Notice I didn't say expectations. Expectations are for those who wish to be disappointed. I want our team to win every game, I don't expect them to. I want CLM to make all the right decisions, I don't expect him to. Why, because things happen. Everybody makes a mistake every now and then, and nobody is perfect.

If the fact that I see no reason to be calling for the coaches head after he makes a bonehead decision, after he has put together 5 winning seasons, and after he has admitted he made mistakes, makes me a sunshine pumper, than so be it. I would rather be a sunshine pumper than someone who is always looking at the glass half full.

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Chase4LSU

Kind of early, don't you think?

danthetigerfan

Its sad how you have to give them the facts. They couldnt take your word for it. you do know they still wont believe you

LEGACY TIGER

Maybe, but his point fell on deaf ears when his math was off. And much like him you can take your glass half empty remarks with you when you leave.

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Nutriaitch

um, until it happens, saying we'll be 8-5 this year, is not a fact, it is a prediction.
sad that your USL education didn't teach you that.

and if we win out, and LSU ends up at 10-3, you're still gonna think we suck.

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IL. TigerFan

All this proves is that Zook went 8-5 , 8-5 and 4-3 . What does this have to do with Les ??

bmy-

Well, have you looked at next years schedule? UNC, WVU, Tennessee, @Florida.. in the first 6 weeks. Hypothetically speaking -- IF Miles were to finish this season with the same record as last.. (granted 9-4 is more likely than 8-5)

8-5, 8-5.. Then that rough stretch of games? Do we pull the trigger like UF did.. or do we wait it out for a 3rd mediocre season in a row?

LSU is better than that. 12-2, 8-5, 10-3.. now that would be okay IMO. Another 11+ win season in 2010 and all is forgiven in that scenario.

TigerCliff

Coach gives us 10-3 there is nothing to forgive.

bmy-

But if he somehow manages to lose 5 games on the season.. his head should roll.

IL. TigerFan

All you are saying is might or what if . That don't mean a thing.

bmy-

It means everything in the world. We have 3 options right now.

A) 10-3
B) 9-4
C) 8-5

The future looks bright if we go 10-3, and it looks dull at 8-5. The image of our program is very-very-very important for our sustained success. The 'what if' part comes in to play as a natural part of discussion. It's not like these are low-probability events, that all have a significant chance of happening.

IL. TigerFan

bmy-

Yep. Isn't that what discussion is? Discussing possible outcomes and what happens if said event comes to pass? If looking into the future is wrong, why do we discuss anything?

stevescookin

TC , your logic behind calling for LSU to go after a great coach has a serious fatal flaw in it. I wouldn't just assume that the LSU head coaching position is one of the most attractive in major college football...guess what? it is NOT !!

There is no way that serious existing coaches or up and coming coaches consider LSU a destination...a temporary stepping stone, maybe, but never a destination. Not anymore.

The very FIRST question a candidate would ask is "What does it take to make the LSU fanbase happy?"

Then their thought process would proceed rapidly to something like this... "Look at the success Les Miles had there and they ran him off. Jeezus, the man won every bowl game decisively, every out of conference game, a National championship, two divisional titles, an SEC championship. worked hard to have top five recruiting classes, Performed a coaching miracle after Katrina...

...and they NEVER gave him any credit for it. He was always accused of winning with Saban's players. He was always being negatively compared with Saban. That fanbase is out of their minds. I bet Saban himself would never want to go back there. There's just no making them happy !!"

Some very good coaches would show interest and one of them would sign on, but at the first vacancy anywhere else, they'd bolt. They'd bolt because their agent would demand a contract that allowed them to do so. Their agent would demand a contract with a heavy buyout in it so that it would be nearly impossible to fire the coach. The agent would demand a very, very high paying contract loaded with financial bonuses for achieving performance benchmarks on top of an unrealistic salary.

It'll be all about the money and nothing about the loyalty.

Les Miles would be crazy not to bolt if someone else offered him the same money to go elsewhere that he'd lose by leaving here. And Saban himself would be crazy to leave Alabama, where he's idolized, to come back here where the honeymoon would eventually end.

Like I said earlier, LSU is not one of the premeir head coaching positions in America...It's really America's premier snakepit because there's no placating LSU's fans.

Bayou Tiger

Whoa cowboy, I didn't say THAT.


Proof that that you are not what you claim cause if you look at "the body of work as a whole" it's WAY more than just one "bonehead decision".

You're right though, it is just a game. I also do agree with you in that I'm not sold on firing him as being the right move at this point. Unlike you, however, I expect more than just "winning seasons".

IL. TigerFan

Did you have to get the Webster out to put me in my place. LOL
My Mom said there would be days like this. LOL