Toughest Hurdle

LSUGradin99 · 05-12-2004, 07:53 PM

Just thinking about how often I read posts or hear people talk about LSU's toughest opponents in football. It seems that most people believe that Georgia is the toughest hurdle for LSU.

Personally, going into each season beating Florida is always something I am not confident in. I realize that Florida as of late is not the same team they one were but it seems they continue to give LSU a run for its money. Hopefully LSU will establish a dominance over Florida.

Just curious what other people think. Is Georgia really the toughest team or is it still Florida?

On a side note, I suppose a Georgia fan could ask a similar question, given their lack of luck in their annual game against Florida. They could question whether or not their toughest hurdle is LSU or if it is Florida.

diamondheadtiger · 05-12-2004, 08:01 PM

I believe it's Florida, however if they played us in the SECCG this past year instead of UGA, we would have tore that AZZ up, much like Iowa did em in their bowl game.

gotskeeters · 05-12-2004, 08:01 PM

I agree, Florida is a tough hurdle for us, but Georgia is the class of the West right now. They have a very good coach, and a very good team.
Don't let the fact that LSU handled them easily in the SEC championship make you forget that they were a game or two away from the national championship picture the last 2 seasons.

TigerFan101 · 05-12-2004, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUGradin99

Just thinking about how often I read posts or hear people talk about LSU's toughest opponents in football. It seems that most people believe that Georgia is the toughest hurdle for LSU.

Personally, going into each season beating Florida is always something I am not confident in. I realize that Florida as of late is not the same team they one were but it seems they continue to give LSU a run for its money. Hopefully LSU will establish a dominance over Florida.

Just curious what other people think. Is Georgia really the toughest team or is it still Florida?

On a side note, I suppose a Georgia fan could ask a similar question, given their lack of luck in their annual game against Florida. They could question whether or not their toughest hurdle is LSU or if it is Florida.

... I believe that UGA will be the toughest of the regular season opponents, assuming that no other team in the SEC has a freak breakout season.

I am in no way disregarding UF though... but we beat UGA twice last year, and LOST to UF. Therefore you have to add in the revenge factor...
which in my opinion will make saban and the squad more ready to play in the swamp...

note: I never said that we would loose to any of these teams... I am just giving my opinion on the toughest opponent that we will BEAT!!!! :lsug:

Tygrr · 05-12-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gotskeeters

but Georgia is the class of the West right now.

Georgia is in the East.

TigerEducated · 05-12-2004, 09:37 PM

The University of Florida has beaten Mark Richt each year he's been there, I believe. They also beat us last year, the year we won a national title.

They have Chris Leak, and I hate to say it, but he's a more polished version of Quincy Carter. Quincy Carter got sacked less times in college than I have fingers on both my hands (I have 10, in case anyone can't count that high). I think Leak is more elusive, and is a better decision maker. A better athlete and a better quarterback.

That's scary. We were not at our best, but Zaunbrecher and their now head offensive coordinator carved our 1st team defense apart in the early going.

The shotgun, breaking the huddle with 15 seconds left took away our substitutions, as well as what Saban takes advantage of: Teams that don't break early can't read defenses and disguised coverages as well or as long.

Leak is tailor made to eat our defense up. A mobile quarterback who can make the touch passes. Hard to tackle, cannon armed, and a guy who can create once the pocket collapses. That's the only thing we haven't faced in spades. A mobile guy that can create havoc.

Don't say that Matt Jones is on Leak's level, either...He's a poor man's Wayne Madkin, with an extra half step.

Leak-and Florida every year he stays-will scare me the most, until another team beats us.

GoldenFlashes72 · 05-13-2004, 07:05 AM

Ladies, look at the recruiting wars over the past four years.

Who in the SEC has outrecruited LSU? Answer: Nobody

Who is damned close if not right up there with us? Answer: Florida

Who will continue to keep up to LSU's level in the future? Answer: Probably Florida, even with Zook.

You don't need ten fingers to figure that out. But if you're psychic, guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

diamondheadtiger · 05-13-2004, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenFlashes72

Ladies, look at the recruiting wars over the past four years.

Who in the SEC has outrecruited LSU? Answer: Nobody

Who is damned close if not right up there with us? Answer: Florida

Who will continue to keep up to LSU's level in the future? Answer: Probably Florida, even with Zook.

You don't need ten fingers to figure that out. But if you're psychic, guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

Florida been recruiting right there with us the past few years. I think we play them in the Ga. Dome this year as another rematch. They doubted we'd beat UGA twice and they will doubt we beat UF twice, that's the best way to have it. UGA is good, but IMO get waaaaaaaay to much hype.
UGA been recruiting good too. Auburn gets the rejects and leftovers, that's part of the little sis mentality they have with UA

Sourdoughman · 05-13-2004, 08:54 AM

I think Florida without a doubt is our toughest opponent.
Even before Spurriers days....
I never will forget being at Tiger Stadium watching us play the Gators in the mid 80's.
They beat us 11-0 in the game, thats all I remember..

With the now Sophmore Chris Leak and playing them in the Swamp I think it will be a tough game, I do know Florida is not the team they were in the Spurrier years however.
I do think Georgia will also be a tough game but like a poster said above I have a hunch that we will have to play and beat Florida twice this year to win it all.
The Florida game will be tougher because its the game right after the Georgia game.
If we win against Georgia there is always the emotional let down that can always
happen with young players although Nick does a pretty good job of surpressing that
kind of thing.

Georgia will be very good but I just have a feeling that they've already peaked and won't be quite the team they were last year.

Goodlifetiger · 05-13-2004, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenFlashes72

Ladies, look at the recruiting wars over the past four years.

Who in the SEC has outrecruited LSU? Answer: Nobody

Who is damned close if not right up there with us? Answer: Florida

Who will continue to keep up to LSU's level in the future? Answer: Probably Florida, even with Zook.

You don't need ten fingers to figure that out. But if you're psychic, guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

Six. Florida is the team I worry about more than any other. But....Let me be the first in this thread to say. The next opponent is the toughest.

TwistedTiger · 05-13-2004, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUGradin99

Just curious what other people think. Is Georgia really the toughest team or is it still Florida?

I would have to agree with many here and say Florida, Green may get all the pub but he isn't a pimple on Leaks a$$ and Leak will only be better this year while Green reached his maximum potential two seasons ago. However I don't think the Gayters are where we are talent wise and we should have NO problem getting motivated for that game.

red55 · 05-13-2004, 09:12 AM

Florida, Georgia, and Auburn on the road will all be tough. If LSU gets through that slate undefeated, they will be the undisputed 800-pound gorilla. I still think Georgia will be the most talented team with the best coach that we will face. And it is hard to beat a good team three time in a row. Georgia will be the test.

Florida will be strong and dangerous, but they are also inconsistent and can be had on a good day. We can take them.

Auburn will be tough at home, but I don't think they have the depth to compete for the title. We can take them.

Tygrr · 05-13-2004, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodlifetiger

Six. Florida is the team I worry about more than any other. But....Let me be the first in this thread to say. The next opponent is the toughest.

Yeah, everyone knows that the powerhouse from Oregon is by far the toughest game on our schedule.

If you're trying to take a Saban approach to it, you're getting it all wrong. He's says the next game is the most important, not the toughest.

islstl · 05-13-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenFlashes72

Ladies, look at the recruiting wars over the past four years.

Who in the SEC has outrecruited LSU? Answer: Nobody

Who is damned close if not right up there with us? Answer: Florida

Who will continue to keep up to LSU's level in the future? Answer: Probably Florida, even with Zook.

You don't need ten fingers to figure that out. But if you're psychic, guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

My guess would be 1....the middle one.

islstl · 05-13-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sourdoughman

I never will forget being at Tiger Stadium watching us play the Gators in the mid 80's.
They beat us 11-0 in the game, thats all I remember..

I am perplexed by the combination of those 2 statements. Wow.

islstl · 05-13-2004, 11:03 AM

TE, you make very valid points about Chris Leak and the trouble he presents to our defense.

The only thing I can say is at the point we played Florida last year our defense was still not close to clicking 100 %. Jack Hunt was out that game, and Daniels was not the same cornerback he ended up being at the end of the season. We had never really known what a Justin Vincent could do, in fact he was thrown into the fire in the game when Carey and Addai were both injured. With all that said, LSU still had a chance midway through the fourth quarter to win that game.

LSU has revenge on its mind when we play Florida next year. Georgia has double revenge on its mind when they play LSU. Based on that alone, besides the fact that Georgia is a more solid team with a much better coach, Georgia will be our toughest opponent. The kicking game could end up being crucial. I just hope we resolve all of our problems in that area.

Tygrr · 05-14-2004, 11:14 AM

I like you Ramah, you're one of a kind.

Obi-Wan Tiger · 05-14-2004, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerEducated

The shotgun, breaking the huddle with 15 seconds left took away our substitutions, as well as what Saban takes advantage of: Teams that don't break early can't read defenses and disguised coverages as well or as long.

.

I look for more teams to use no huddle against us because of our mass substitutions. What do y'all think Saban will do to counter this?

Goodlifetiger · 05-17-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by I-of-the-Tygrr

Yeah, everyone knows that the powerhouse from Oregon is by far the toughest game on our schedule.

If you're trying to take a Saban approach to it, you're getting it all wrong. He's says the next game is the most important, not the toughest.

Actually I was being sarcastic. Every time this discussion comes up someone pulls out the old Saban quote. I am sure glad you were around to get me straight on that quote. Thanks.

05-12-2004, 07:53 PM	#1
LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gonzales, La Posts: 14,699	Toughest Hurdle Just thinking about how often I read posts or hear people talk about LSU's toughest opponents in football. It seems that most people believe that Georgia is the toughest hurdle for LSU. Personally, going into each season beating Florida is always something I am not confident in. I realize that Florida as of late is not the same team they one were but it seems they continue to give LSU a run for its money. Hopefully LSU will establish a dominance over Florida. Just curious what other people think. Is Georgia really the toughest team or is it still Florida? On a side note, I suppose a Georgia fan could ask a similar question, given their lack of luck in their annual game against Florida. They could question whether or not their toughest hurdle is LSU or if it is Florida. __________________ Geaux Tigers! True TigerForums babes don't name their kids after rival quarterbacks.

05-13-2004, 07:05 AM	#7
GoldenFlashes72 NONE Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 31	Gee whillikers, can anyone see the forest for the trees Ladies, look at the recruiting wars over the past four years. Who in the SEC has outrecruited LSU? Answer: Nobody Who is damned close if not right up there with us? Answer: Florida Who will continue to keep up to LSU's level in the future? Answer: Probably Florida, even with Zook. You don't need ten fingers to figure that out. But if you're psychic, guess how many fingers I'm holding up?

05-13-2004, 08:54 AM	#9
Sourdoughman Fan of the Tigerman Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 10,741	I think Florida without a doubt is our toughest opponent. Even before Spurriers days.... I never will forget being at Tiger Stadium watching us play the Gators in the mid 80's. They beat us 11-0 in the game, thats all I remember.. With the now Sophmore Chris Leak and playing them in the Swamp I think it will be a tough game, I do know Florida is not the team they were in the Spurrier years however. I do think Georgia will also be a tough game but like a poster said above I have a hunch that we will have to play and beat Florida twice this year to win it all. The Florida game will be tougher because its the game right after the Georgia game. If we win against Georgia there is always the emotional let down that can always happen with young players although Nick does a pretty good job of surpressing that kind of thing. Georgia will be very good but I just have a feeling that they've already peaked and won't be quite the team they were last year. __________________ Saints won the Superbowl and Hell has froze over! What is next?

05-13-2004, 09:12 AM	#12
red55 curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 21,395	Florida, Georgia, and Auburn on the road will all be tough. If LSU gets through that slate undefeated, they will be the undisputed 800-pound gorilla. I still think Georgia will be the most talented team with the best coach that we will face. And it is hard to beat a good team three time in a row. Georgia will be the test. Florida will be strong and dangerous, but they are also inconsistent and can be had on a good day. We can take them. Auburn will be tough at home, but I don't think they have the depth to compete for the title. We can take them. __________________ "When you make the finding yourself - even if you're the last person on Earth to see the light - you'll never forget it." --Carl Sagan

05-13-2004, 11:03 AM	#16
islstl Saints SB 44 Champs! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 26,123	TE, you make very valid points about Chris Leak and the trouble he presents to our defense. The only thing I can say is at the point we played Florida last year our defense was still not close to clicking 100 %. Jack Hunt was out that game, and Daniels was not the same cornerback he ended up being at the end of the season. We had never really known what a Justin Vincent could do, in fact he was thrown into the fire in the game when Carey and Addai were both injured. With all that said, LSU still had a chance midway through the fourth quarter to win that game. LSU has revenge on its mind when we play Florida next year. Georgia has double revenge on its mind when they play LSU. Based on that alone, besides the fact that Georgia is a more solid team with a much better coach, Georgia will be our toughest opponent. The kicking game could end up being crucial. I just hope we resolve all of our problems in that area. __________________

05-12-2004, 08:01 PM	#2
diamondheadtiger Registered Guest Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,518	I believe it's Florida, however if they played us in the SECCG this past year instead of UGA, we would have tore that AZZ up, much like Iowa did em in their bowl game.

05-12-2004, 08:01 PM	#3
gotskeeters Registered Guest Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tiger Stadium Posts: 139	I agree, Florida is a tough hurdle for us, but Georgia is the class of the West right now. They have a very good coach, and a very good team. Don't let the fact that LSU handled them easily in the SEC championship make you forget that they were a game or two away from the national championship picture the last 2 seasons.

05-12-2004, 09:37 PM	#6
TigerEducated Registered Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denham Springs, Louisiana Posts: 3,124	The University of Florida has beaten Mark Richt each year he's been there, I believe. They also beat us last year, the year we won a national title. They have Chris Leak, and I hate to say it, but he's a more polished version of Quincy Carter. Quincy Carter got sacked less times in college than I have fingers on both my hands (I have 10, in case anyone can't count that high). I think Leak is more elusive, and is a better decision maker. A better athlete and a better quarterback. That's scary. We were not at our best, but Zaunbrecher and their now head offensive coordinator carved our 1st team defense apart in the early going. The shotgun, breaking the huddle with 15 seconds left took away our substitutions, as well as what Saban takes advantage of: Teams that don't break early can't read defenses and disguised coverages as well or as long. Leak is tailor made to eat our defense up. A mobile quarterback who can make the touch passes. Hard to tackle, cannon armed, and a guy who can create once the pocket collapses. That's the only thing we haven't faced in spades. A mobile guy that can create havoc. Don't say that Matt Jones is on Leak's level, either...He's a poor man's Wayne Madkin, with an extra half step. Leak-and Florida every year he stays-will scare me the most, until another team beats us.

05-14-2004, 11:14 AM	#17
Tygrr Win the West Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,987	I like you Ramah, you're one of a kind.

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