Outback Bowl Clarification

Aubie16 · 11-09-2006, 08:26 AM

I've seen many posts referring to the Outback Bowl "screwing over" teams from the Western Division. This really isn't true.

How it works is this.

1. SEC Champion goes to Sugar Bowl or BCS Natl Championship.

2. Other BCS Bowls can pick team as an at-large

3. Capital One Picks their team. Must be the team with the next best record, or a team within one game of that record.

4. Outback Bowl and Cotton Bowl get the next 2 picks. The Outback bowl gets first preference on teams from the East. Cotton Bowl gets its first preference on teams in the West.
Neither bowl picks before the other one, they both pick at the same time.
If either the Outback or Cotton wishes to select a team from the other division, it must wait until the Bowl with that division preference goes.

5. The Peach Bowl then chooses from either division.

6. Music City and Liberty Bowls then rank their teams in order of preference. If they have different teams at the top of their list, the SEC will award each Bowl its team of preference.
IF they have the same team, at the top of their list, said team gets to pick which bowl they want to go to. Next team then goes to the other bowl.

7. Independence Bowl then gets their pick of any team left that is Bowl Eligable. (8th team)

LSUDeek · 11-09-2006, 08:40 AM

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Auburn is 20-1 in its last 21 SEC games. Damn you guys.

It's time to fix that signature, Aubie.

Aubie16 · 11-09-2006, 03:11 PM

yea, yea, yea!

its fixed....but doesn't look quite as good.

I still can't believe we lost that game.

PURPLE TIGER · 11-10-2006, 08:10 AM

Aubie...I'm one of the people you're referring to. I understand the selection order but still disagree with you. The Cotton and Outback do in fact select at the same time and each has preference for their respective division. On occasion, the Cotton has wanted to select from the East allowing the Outback to choose the top team in the West but the Outback wanted nothing to do with that.

According to the selection order you would reasonably expect that the Cotton would "usually" have a team from the West and the Outback would "usually" have a team from the East. There's nothing that says it's a mandate. The law of averages suggests that "occasionally" you would select from the other division. The Cotton has selected Tennessee twice in the last six years. How long has it been since a team from the West went to Tampa?...10 years!

They've had their opportunities to select from the West and refused in lieu of a lower rated team from the East.

Screw 'em...let 'em rotate on the barbie, mate! (and their steaks suck too!)

Hopefully the SEC will send two teams to BCS this year. With one less team to choose from, we'll see how the Capital One, Cotton, and Outback select this year. If Tennesse loses to Arkansas and Florida goes to a BCS bowl, who does the Outback take? Tennesee?, Georgia?, Kentucky?, South Carolina? I bet they'll want AU, LSU, or Arkansas this year.

pharpe · 11-10-2006, 08:58 AM

Well we were second in the SEC last year and didn't get picked by the Cotton. That means we were wide open for the Outback and they passed us up.

TigerWins · 11-10-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pharpe

Well we were second in the SEC last year and didn't get picked by the Cotton. That means we were wide open for the Outback and they passed us up.

No kidding! We played in the SECCG and fall all the way to the Peach Bowl. Made no sense.

But it was fun beating the crap out of Miami and sending their program into a tailspin!

qball316 · 11-10-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerWins

No kidding! We played in the SECCG and fall all the way to the Peach Bowl. Made no sense.

But it was fun beating the crap out of Miami and sending their program into a tailspin!

According to local newspaper:

Cottom bowl usually shys away from the west division teams which is why they didn't pick LSU last year. However, the article (based on an interview with some Cotton Bowl suits) quotes the suits many times referring that they know they should've pick LSU last year. And they will be at LSU's final 3 games this year. They proceeded to say that should LSU win out and they don't get BCS At-Large, they will difinately be looking at LSU very hard for the Cotton this year.

bhelmLSU · 11-10-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by qball316

According to local newspaper:

Cottom bowl usually shys away from the west division teams which is why they didn't pick LSU last year. However, the article (based on an interview with some Cotton Bowl suits) quotes the suits many times referring that they know they should've pick LSU last year. And they will be at LSU's final 3 games this year. They proceeded to say that should LSU win out and they don't get BCS At-Large, they will difinately be looking at LSU very hard for the Cotton this year.

Well they didnt shy away from the West last year: Bama vs. Texas Tech

qball316 · 11-10-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bhelmLSU

Well they didnt shy away from the West last year: Bama vs. Texas Tech

thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that, I was posting from what i remeber reading. I didn't realize that they picked those teams last year. You would think they could have picked better teams than Bama and TT, neither one was ranked last year if I remember right.

G-LSU · 11-10-2006, 10:14 AM

The Cotton Bowl is great if that is where we end up this year, ther's just something about playing in a Bowl game at night..... I guess it's similar to Sat Nite at Death Valley!!!!

LSUDeek · 11-10-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by qball316

thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize that, I was posting from what i remeber reading. I didn't realize that they picked those teams last year. You would think they could have picked better teams than Bama and TT, neither one was ranked last year if I remember right.

well, you remember wrong, Alabama was #13 and Texas Tech was #18.

alabama was a good choice for them, they traveled extremely well for their first significant bowl in a while

qball316 · 11-10-2006, 10:49 AM

The point is Outback Bowl could have done better

COTiger · 11-10-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by G-LSU

The Cotton Bowl is great if that is where we end up this year, ther's just something about playing in a Bowl game at night..... I guess it's similar to Sat Nite at Death Valley!!!!

Huh?? The Cotton Bowl is an early morning game.

00Tiger · 11-10-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PURPLE TIGER

The Cotton has selected Tennessee twice in the last six years. How long has it been since a team from the West went to Tampa?...10 years!

They've had their opportunities to select from the West and refused in lieu of a lower rated team from the East.

You are right, but 6-8 last cotton bowls had a SEC west team in it. Tennessee is the only East team to play in it since 1999. I don't think there was an SEC contract with the cotton bowl pre 99 though. And technically Alabama and Auburn played in the Outback bowl in 96 and 97, within your 10 year time frame

.

PURPLE TIGER · 11-10-2006, 08:01 PM

OUTBACK BOWL HISTORY

2006 Florida
2005 Georgia
2004 Florida
2003 Florida
2002 South Carolina
2001 South Carolina
2000 Georgia
1999 Kentucky
1998 Georgia

1997 Alabama (January 1, 1997...seven weeks away from 10 years)

As you can see, the last nine teams were from the East and we're only a few weeks away from the 10-year mark since a team from the West was selected.

PURPLE TIGER · 11-11-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUDeek

It's time to fix that signature, Aubie.

Time to fix it again!

23-3...and counting.

11-09-2006, 03:11 PM	#3
Aubie16 Registered Guest Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn Posts: 525	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification yea, yea, yea! its fixed....but doesn't look quite as good. I still can't believe we lost that game. __________________ 17-7 28-23 21-13 WAR DAMN EAGLE 28-18 22-15 17-10

11-10-2006, 08:10 AM	#4
PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Slidell, Louisiana Posts: 4,671	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification Aubie...I'm one of the people you're referring to. I understand the selection order but still disagree with you. The Cotton and Outback do in fact select at the same time and each has preference for their respective division. On occasion, the Cotton has wanted to select from the East allowing the Outback to choose the top team in the West but the Outback wanted nothing to do with that. According to the selection order you would reasonably expect that the Cotton would "usually" have a team from the West and the Outback would "usually" have a team from the East. There's nothing that says it's a mandate. The law of averages suggests that "occasionally" you would select from the other division. The Cotton has selected Tennessee twice in the last six years. How long has it been since a team from the West went to Tampa?...10 years! They've had their opportunities to select from the West and refused in lieu of a lower rated team from the East. Screw 'em...let 'em rotate on the barbie, mate! (and their steaks suck too!) Hopefully the SEC will send two teams to BCS this year. With one less team to choose from, we'll see how the Capital One, Cotton, and Outback select this year. If Tennesse loses to Arkansas and Florida goes to a BCS bowl, who does the Outback take? Tennesee?, Georgia?, Kentucky?, South Carolina? I bet they'll want AU, LSU, or Arkansas this year.

11-10-2006, 08:58 AM	#5
pharpe Blue, you're my Boy! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,849	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification Well we were second in the SEC last year and didn't get picked by the Cotton. That means we were wide open for the Outback and they passed us up.

11-10-2006, 10:14 AM	#10
G-LSU Registered Guest Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 810	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification The Cotton Bowl is great if that is where we end up this year, ther's just something about playing in a Bowl game at night..... I guess it's similar to Sat Nite at Death Valley!!!!

11-10-2006, 10:49 AM	#12
qball316 Registered Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 857	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification The point is Outback Bowl could have done better

11-09-2006, 08:26 AM	#1
Aubie16 Registered Guest Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn Posts: 525	Outback Bowl Clarification I've seen many posts referring to the Outback Bowl "screwing over" teams from the Western Division. This really isn't true. How it works is this. 1. SEC Champion goes to Sugar Bowl or BCS Natl Championship. 2. Other BCS Bowls can pick team as an at-large 3. Capital One Picks their team. Must be the team with the next best record, or a team within one game of that record. 4. Outback Bowl and Cotton Bowl get the next 2 picks. The Outback bowl gets first preference on teams from the East. Cotton Bowl gets its first preference on teams in the West. Neither bowl picks before the other one, they both pick at the same time. If either the Outback or Cotton wishes to select a team from the other division, it must wait until the Bowl with that division preference goes. 5. The Peach Bowl then chooses from either division. 6. Music City and Liberty Bowls then rank their teams in order of preference. If they have different teams at the top of their list, the SEC will award each Bowl its team of preference. IF they have the same team, at the top of their list, said team gets to pick which bowl they want to go to. Next team then goes to the other bowl. 7. Independence Bowl then gets their pick of any team left that is Bowl Eligable. (8th team) __________________ 17-7 28-23 21-13 WAR DAMN EAGLE 28-18 22-15 17-10

11-10-2006, 08:01 PM	#15
PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Slidell, Louisiana Posts: 4,671	Re: Outback Bowl Clarification OUTBACK BOWL HISTORY 2006 Florida 2005 Georgia 2004 Florida 2003 Florida 2002 South Carolina 2001 South Carolina 2000 Georgia 1999 Kentucky 1998 Georgia 1997 Alabama (January 1, 1997...seven weeks away from 10 years) As you can see, the last nine teams were from the East and we're only a few weeks away from the 10-year mark since a team from the West was selected.

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