Is it time for a coaching change

Sourdoughman · 10-11-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tirk

also do a better job of putting JJ in position he feels most comfy. roll-outs and quick slants/screens.

where were those last night? thats on the coaches not JJ.

I brought this up after the Georgia game, that we didn't see any screens at all this season to loosen up the defense.
Come to think of it we ran one screen play last night that failed so I guess that is why we didn't run any more last night?
Honestly, I don't think blocking has been taught very well on the offensive side of the ball the last few years!

tirk · 10-11-2009, 08:45 AM

lets be real. coaching change is a freaking ridiculous topic. I was just posting while overlooking the idiocy of the topic.

we need a change in approach not coaching.

AtlantaBengal · 10-11-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FireMiles

You should get an application to coach at LSU if you were happy with any performance this year. Yeah we were 5 - 0 but our coaches managed to make everyone we beat look really good. People like you would still have Hallman or Archer at LSU.

Can't comment on Archer so much as I was only 9 when he was coaching.

Didn't Hallman not even have a winning record?

Your view of Miles is a projection of your own damn negativity.

DiNardo and Hallman lost more games in 2 seasons than Miles has in 5.

Do we have problems on offense? Absolutely! Can they be quick fixed? Doesn't appear so.

But your solution is to quickly fire everyone; start from scratch as if THAT's any better?! Nebraska thought 9-wins weren't enough and fired their head coach and look how long it's taking them to return to their old form!

geauxtigs · 10-11-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lsu-i-like

The QBs have been mishandled for 1.5 years, we may need a coaching change to realize that.

Yeah, coaching change is what we need. Fire the coach/staff who is 5 - 1 this year and just lost to the #1 team in the nation who are also the defending national champs and have the best player in college football at QB. Fire the coach who is 47 - 12 in four and a half years and has an 80% win pct. Yeah, that's just what we need.

That's just the kind of crap Nebraska did when they fired Frank Solich and hired Callahan. That worked real well. Ole Miss did it by firing David Cutcliffe and hired Orgeron to save the day. That worked out real well too. And I bet we'd have coaches just clammering to the LSU doorstep after firing a coach who won 80% of his games, an SEC title and NC in the last two years with a 4 - 0 record in bowl games. Yeah, I can see why we need to fire all the coaches right now!

There are problems on the offense that need fixing, absolutely. Right now JJ is not cutting the mustard. We may NEED Lee to come in more during games. Not advocating canning JJ, but Lee certainly could have come in during a couple series last night, especially in the 4th qtr. Why not? JJ was not getting the job done. Also, the OL is not in sync right now and that needs fixing. Where is Shep? Should have been in the game last night without a doubt, IMO. The coaches and staff definitely have work to do. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Firing them is not the answer.

DRC · 10-11-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tirk

lets be real. coaching change is a freaking ridiculous topic. I was just posting while overlooking the idiocy of the topic.

we need a change in approach not coaching.

Bingo!

Of course its idiotic to seriously discuss a change of coaches but its not idiotic to discuss changes in how they are coaching.

AtlantaBengal · 10-11-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tirk

lets be real. coaching change is a freaking ridiculous topic. I was just posting while overlooking the idiocy of the topic.

we need a change in approach not coaching.

I agree with you.

I'm jumping off a bridge!

red55 · 10-11-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tirk

true except with qb. you have to bring them along slowly and we all agree that was the reasoning JJ wasnt asked to do much.

but his weaknesses are evident now and he seems to lack the moxy and instincts to get the ball downfield.

can this be corrected? sure but the coaches have to decide if they are willing to lose a few more games with him in there and OJT.

There are days that I wouldn't trade you for anybody.

If you could just find your Caps key, you'd be my hero . . .

Sourdoughman · 10-11-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DRC

Bingo!

Of course its idiotic to seriously discuss a change of coaches but its not idiotic to discuss changes in how they are coaching.

Agree, I'm not saying its time for a coaching change yet either!

msully · 10-11-2009, 08:51 AM

I think we have a good QB an he is still learning , and before long he will be like Tebow able to choose where the ball should be . But he is not there yet , . He is a good Qb but he seems a bit unsure , and I know with his talent , that will change . The "gators" are a good team , maybe even a great team , but we did not hit Tebow enough and not hard enough .That makes me proud to be a Tiger fan . The team shows more sportsmanship than I have in me . I as a fan would have liked to have seen Tebow on the ground not able to play after the 1st 5 minuites of the game .
So, I as a fan now have a goal "CHANGE" for this season . The SEC Championship game . I will do what I can as a fan to see that This LSU Team plays the "gators" one more time . And to be sure that the LSU players hit Tebow , 3 players at a time , one high one low and one in the middle , trying to tear off his head .That is how to win a game , play with emotion . When LSU walked out on the field it was like going to practice, they have to be on fire That is our job as fans .We have to set the fire . We got the coach, and we got the team so

GEAUX TIGERS !

GEAUX TIGERS !!

GEAUX TIGERS !!!

Ch0sn0ne · 10-11-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tirk

lets be real. coaching change is a freaking ridiculous topic. I was just posting while overlooking the idiocy of the topic.

we need a change in approach not coaching.

Exactly.

With the way things are going, and have been going for two years, the players will never be able to count on the gameplan to win the game for them.

This is why we will get smoked by Bamaand possible Ole Miss, because they match up talentwise with us, and you know Saban and Nutt are going to outcoach the hell out of Miles.

The rest of the games we have a chance, because we simply have more talent and can maybe just outlast them like the first four games.

Now, if all the sudden our approach changed and we were more proactive, we could have a chance in those games as well.

I think at this point you gotta go all Texas Tech on offense. Short quick YAC style passing game and throw in a run every 3rd play when they are back on their heels.

(NO I DON"T EXPECT 500 PASSING YARDS LIKE TEXAS TECH, JUST THE APPROACH TO BE SIMILAR)

FireMiles · 10-11-2009, 08:51 AM

LSU Fans Will Suffer Because of Gary Crowton | Picklewagon

FROM ORGEGON Fans to LSU Fans; I suppose we could have said the same to Florida State Fans about Jimbo. FIRE CROWTON before we start loosing recruits.

Sourdoughman · 10-11-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FireMiles

FIRE CROWTON before we start loosing recruits.

You mean losing?

FireMiles · 10-11-2009, 08:53 AM

LSU Fans Will Suffer Because of Gary Crowton | Picklewagon

Herb · 10-11-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasTigers

I do love it,

My favorite ones are "Fire the Coach" after every loss...

They are almost as entertaining as the "Fire the Coach" threads even after we win!

Goodlifetiger · 10-11-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LEGACY TIGER

Yes, let's do that. We just lost 13-3 to the best team in the country. Yet this team played them better than anyone has in 2 yrs. I like our chances to win from here on out, and see them again in Atlanta.

Alabama is looking better than the Gators. We will not beat bama. There running game is to strong. The rest of the West is beatable.

red55 · 10-11-2009, 09:03 AM

Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be.

No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings.

geauxtigs · 10-11-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be.

No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings.

My thoughts exactly.

Sourdoughman · 10-11-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be.

No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings.

I totally agree with your post HOWEVER if this is the case then I wonder if the program hasn't taken a slight step backwards?
It seems to me that we are now in third place behind Florida and Bama just like last year.

Keep in mind that I am NOT trying to bash anyone but its just a thought.
I guess next year will have to be the make or break year?
I know and agree we can't be there every year but at some point if we don't beat Bama or Florida something will have to change?

JohnLSU · 10-11-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerjuice

the longest any coach has gone at LSU is 5 years

Bernie Moore -- 13 years
Gus Tinsley -- 7 years
Paul Dietzel -- 7 years
Charlie McClendon -- 18 years

paducahmichael · 10-11-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be.

No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings.

Right again, Red. I'm sorry we didn't beat Florida, but the D showed much improvement and we kept it close. Better than I actually expected at the beginning of the season.

red55 · 10-11-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sourdoughman

I know and agree we can't be there every year but at some point if we don't beat Bama or Florida something will have to change?

Keep it in perspective. In this decade:

LSU has 2 National Championships and 3 SEC Championships
Florida has 2 National Championships and 2 SEC Championships
Bama has . . . well . . . nothing yet.

geauxtigs · 10-11-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Keep it in perspective. In this decade:

LSU has 2 National Championships and 3 SEC Championships
Florida has 2 National Championships and 2 SEC Championships
Bama has . . . well . . . nothing yet.

Hit it right on the head Red!

Thanks!

TwT · 10-11-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be.

No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings.

I agree also, but with the offense sputtering like it I would be very happy and feel lucky if we have a 10-2 season.

LSUGradin99 · 10-11-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FireMiles

LSU Fans Will Suffer Because of Gary Crowton | Picklewagon

FROM ORGEGON Fans to LSU Fans; I suppose we could have said the same to Florida State Fans about Jimbo. FIRE CROWTON before we start loosing recruits.

I must admit, that article is a great find.

Sourdoughman · 10-11-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by red55

Keep it in perspective. In this decade:

LSU has 2 National Championships and 3 SEC Championships
Florida has 2 National Championships and 2 SEC Championships
Bama has . . . well . . . nothing yet.

Well Said!

Can't wait to see how things play out.
It also gets us closer to

and

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msully Registered Guest Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 802	Re: Is it time for a coaching change I think we have a good QB an he is still learning , and before long he will be like Tebow able to choose where the ball should be . But he is not there yet , . He is a good Qb but he seems a bit unsure , and I know with his talent , that will change . The "gators" are a good team , maybe even a great team , but we did not hit Tebow enough and not hard enough .That makes me proud to be a Tiger fan . The team shows more sportsmanship than I have in me . I as a fan would have liked to have seen Tebow on the ground not able to play after the 1st 5 minuites of the game . So, I as a fan now have a goal "CHANGE" for this season . The SEC Championship game . I will do what I can as a fan to see that This LSU Team plays the "gators" one more time . And to be sure that the LSU players hit Tebow , 3 players at a time , one high one low and one in the middle , trying to tear off his head .That is how to win a game , play with emotion . When LSU walked out on the field it was like going to practice, they have to be on fire That is our job as fans .We have to set the fire . We got the coach, and we got the team so GEAUX TIGERS ! GEAUX TIGERS !! GEAUX TIGERS !!! __________________ GEAUX TIGERS !!!

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FireMiles Registered Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16	Re: Is it time for a coaching change LSU Fans Will Suffer Because of Gary Crowton \| Picklewagon FROM ORGEGON Fans to LSU Fans; I suppose we could have said the same to Florida State Fans about Jimbo. FIRE CROWTON before we start loosing recruits.

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red55 curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 22,775	Re: Is it time for a coaching change Almost everybody predicted 10-2 with losses to Bama and Florida last summer on this board. We are exactly on track for that record, which ain't shabby at all in a minor rebuilding year. Those teams will be ranked #1 and #2 this week and we have to play them both, year-in and year-out. We're just not going to be champions every year, folks, nobody is going to be. No reason we can't be content with 10-2, another bowl win, and a very promising 2010 outlook with a better schedule and an awful lot of promising young talent waiting in the wings. __________________ "Half of the American people have never read a newspaper. Half never voted for President. One hopes it is the same half." -- Gore Vidal

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