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Old 01-08-2010, 08:45 AM   #26
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Texas really only had a true freshman (albeit one that looks really talented, but very, very green) to back up their senior QB?
He's the reason we ended up with Shepard

Gilbert will be a better QB then McCoy IMHO. He looked a little rattled in the first half, but considering the magnitude of the game I think he performed reasonably well in the second half. I hope the turnovers don't get in his head and cause him to be another Jarret Lee
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Bama's #3 interfered on every pass play that I saw.
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If Colt hadn't gotten hurt, Saban's ill advised fake punt would be melting down the Bama boards today.

Predicting the future? That injury changed everyone's game plan, just like the 24 to 6 half time lead changed Bama's intensity, unfortunately. If you want to run the football against this defense fine bring your asbestos suit with you.

Every dramatic shift in a game will bring out what the other team is made of. You know "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

Whatever it took Bama answered those questions.
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Predicting the future? That injury changed everyone's game plan, just like the 24 to 6 half time lead changed Bama's intensity, unfortunately. If you want to run the football against this defense fine bring your asbestos suit with you.

Every dramatic shift in a game will bring out what the other team is made of. You know "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

Whatever it took Bama answered those questions.

Bama would have been down 14-0 and playing against an All American QB.
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And would have had to throw. How'd the passing game work out for Bama?
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He's the reason we ended up with Shepard

Gilbert will be a better QB then McCoy IMHO. He looked a little rattled in the first half, but considering the magnitude of the game I think he performed reasonably well in the second half. I hope the turnovers don't get in his head and cause him to be another Jarret Lee
Oh, I'm not saying that Gilbert didn't appear to have tons of upside. I'm merely pointing out that UT had only a true freshman as a back-up to McCoy.

Some people seem to think we're the only program left in a lurch because of poor QB depth.

Red touched on it earlier this week in another thread that top QB's don't typically want to go to a school that has recently signed a top QB. That's why there are so many depth problems at that position, in particular.

But LSU fans think it's only us.
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He doesn't look in to me nor does he appear happy.
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Gilbert will be a better QB then McCoy IMHO. He looked a little rattled in the first half, but considering the magnitude of the game I think he performed reasonably well in the second half.
His receivers didn't help him at all. After their kicker played dodgeball with the upman on that kickoff there were two catchable balls that were dropped. That was huge and would have gotten them at least close to field goal range. Instead it was 3 and out.
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It's hard to predict what would've happended but it does suck when you lose your QB...especially when he's a very good one. I don't think it would've hurt Alabama as badly as their QB is just average. Imagine if Alabama had lost their running game.

We all know it takes a really good team and good fortune to win the title. I believe Alabama has a really good team and no one can argue the great fortune they had this year. I believe the latter is what won them the title this year.

I didn't see as much separation from the top 6-8-10 teams this year as in most years. I kept waiting for Alabama, Texas, Florida, etc. to step up and look like THE dominant team this year but nobody ever did. In the end it came down to which team would be fortunate enough to survive.

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Oh, I'm not saying that Gilbert didn't appear to have tons of upside. I'm merely pointing out that UT had only a true freshman as a back-up to McCoy.

Some people seem to think we're the only program left in a lurch because of poor QB depth.

Red touched on it earlier this week in another thread that top QB's don't typically want to go to a school that has recently signed a top QB. That's why there are so many depth problems at that position, in particular.

But LSU fans think it's only us.
i think the difference is Texas' back up quarterback is actually a really good quarterback.
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Oh, I'm not saying that Gilbert didn't appear to have tons of upside. I'm merely pointing out that UT had only a true freshman as a back-up to McCoy.

Some people seem to think we're the only program left in a lurch because of poor QB depth.

Red touched on it earlier this week in another thread that top QB's don't typically want to go to a school that has recently signed a top QB. That's why there are so many depth problems at that position, in particular.

But LSU fans think it's only us.
I agree 100%, the leadership a Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Matt Flynn, etc;... bring to a program is tremendous.

And not easily replaced
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Congrats Coach Shula! You built a winner.
If we follow the logic that is routinely spat out on this forum, by LSU fans and some Bama fans, this is the only explanation that we have for Bama's
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i think the difference is Texas' back up quarterback is actually a really good quarterback.
Yes, he is, but he was a lost lamb out there most of the time last night--albeit with his receivers giving him little help. But I found their receivers, minus Shipley, to be a weak link any time I saw them play this year.
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Yes, he is, but he was a lost lamb out there most of the time last night--albeit with his receivers giving him little help. But I found their receivers, minus Shipley, to be a weak link any time I saw them play this year.
Agreed, if Malcolm Williams catches that sure touchdown pass, then who knows what happens.

Stacey since you live in D/FW, whats up with receivers from Texas with the last name Williams who drop passes?
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Yes, he is, but he was a lost lamb out there most of the time last night--albeit with his receivers giving him little help. But I found their receivers, minus Shipley, to be a weak link any time I saw them play this year.

Then what exactly was their calling card? The running game wouldn't have any SEC defenses up at night.
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But LSU fans think it's only us.
I don't believe it's just us. 2008 was a fluke due to RP being an idiot. I thought the staff gave him ample opportunity to progress as the backup and it showed when we needed him in the SEC Championship. His stupidity and subsequent release cost us several games last year we probably would've won...including against Alabama. It's nearly impossible to resort to your 3rd or 4th option and expect results.

2009 was a different story. JJ looked good against Georgia Tech in the bowl and was expected to improve after a spring with the starters. For whatever reason he didn't appear to make much progress. If you're still trying to improve his skills, how/when can you develop a backup?

QB is such an important role and even if you have great recruiting and coaching, you need more good fortune here than any other position.
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Predicting the future? That injury changed everyone's game plan, just like the 24 to 6 half time lead changed Bama's intensity, unfortunately. If you want to run the football against this defense fine bring your asbestos suit with you.

Every dramatic shift in a game will bring out what the other team is made of. You know "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".

Whatever it took Bama answered those questions.
TX had problems all year running the ball. Texas never faced a team that could run the ball this year. It is the reason for 62 YPG. I thought Bama's O Line would beat them up and would win even with McCoy a QB.

I was surprised of Bama's D-backs being beaten deep.
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Yes, he is, but he was a lost lamb out there most of the time last night--albeit with his receivers giving him little help. But I found their receivers, minus Shipley, to be a weak link any time I saw them play this year.
Slack Brown is the reason the 2nd team QB wasn't ready. Instead of piling up stats with McCovy on the power teams like bailor, rice, etc. He should have played the 2nd team guy.

Calling the timeout before half was damn stupid, too. Run out the clock, get to the locker room and settle your young QB plus change the game plan. They make remarks about the hat... 2nd time in two games Slack has hurt his team.
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Then what exactly was their calling card? The running game wouldn't have any SEC defenses up at night.
I was not at all surprised to see Texas lose last night; in fact, I figured they would because I don't KNOW what was supposed to be so special about them--other than the privilege of playing in a conference that had a number of teams down this year, especially OU and TT. And even then, OU should've been able to win the RR Shootout--but they didn't have the QB to do it.

Shipley was, by far, their best receiver, and he's not all that special, but has great hands.
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Agreed, if Malcolm Williams catches that sure touchdown pass, then who knows what happens.

Stacey since you live in D/FW, whats up with receivers from Texas with the last name Williams who drop passes?
I know one named Williams who better show up to play the Eagles tomorrow night!
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I know one named Williams who better show up to play the Eagles tomorrow night!
exactly. that dude is getting roasted by the dallas media.
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And would have had to throw. How'd the passing game work out for Bama?

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I was not at all surprised to see Texas lose last night; in fact, I figured they would because I don't KNOW what was supposed to be so special about them--other than the privilege of playing in a conference that had a number of teams down this year, especially OU and TT. And even then, OU should've been able to win the RR Shootout--but they didn't have the QB to do it.

Shipley was, by far, their best receiver, and he's not all that special, but has great hands.

Sounds like the spread. Regardless of past success I really didn't follow Texas too much, but I knew in their version of it they like to chunk it. They have speed and it's all about space. I hate the spread.
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I was not at all surprised to see Texas lose last night; in fact, I figured they would because I don't KNOW what was supposed to be so special about them--other than the privilege of playing in a conference that had a number of teams down this year, especially OU and TT. And even then, OU should've been able to win the RR Shootout--but they didn't have the QB to do it.

Shipley was, by far, their best receiver, and he's not all that special, but has great hands.
TT has never been a power. They'll drop back below aTm and OSU next year unless thay can find a coach who can recruit.
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Sounds like the spread. Regardless of past success I really didn't follow Texas too much, but I knew in their version of it they like to chunk it. They have speed and it's all about space. I hate the spread.
I live in Dallas and watch them a few times. I felt OU should have beat them as well as Nebraska. The other Big 12 teams lack enough talent to beat them. Reason TX D gave up only 62 YPG on the ground. We saw what a running team could do to them. If Bama had a QB for a passing game, it wouldn't have been as close as it was.
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