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Old 02-02-2010, 05:37 AM   #1
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Default Dont' Worry.... Tigers Stand Strong

I must admit, I was a bit bothered by the way this season played out (and I still feel Crowton is the wrong man for the job...
I mean.. How many times does the option have to "not work", for the coaches to get the picture!)

But.....
We must all step back and put this thing in some type of perspective.

Two Years ago Alabama couldn't beat Louisiana Monroe.
After coming of a National Championship, Florida Finished 9-4.
The Sky is not falling.


Even with the recent decomitments, we still should put in a top 10 recruiting class.

And their are some amazing athletes, (Reid, Vinson, Simon etc... to name a few) that will have a place to play early and often.

After having one of the Best classes in 2009, expect that talent to show itself in the next year.

Lets not forget, the one thing we can show all potential recruits, which only one other school can compete, is two of those beautiful BCS trophies.

And LSU's recent track record of players that are currently on NFL rosters is seocnd to few.

I know we had a rough year, some horrible coaching, and lost a lot of close games. But the Tigers should not be counted out.

I for one cant wait to see, Loston and Ryan Baker in the Starting Line-up.

And call me crazy, but Murphy was always my favorite RB, I just hope he recovers and can play the season at full strenght.

With a solid year, in 2010, look for LSU to pull in a top 5 class next year and in the hunt for its 3rd BCS title.

Bama is taking some key loses on defense, and Florida has no Tebow.

This is our year to rise again.

JMHO.

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"My name is Kirby.....and I'm a kool aid-a-holic."


"Welcome Kirby !!!!!...."


(Lets get a couple of pitchers of Kool aid and go meet girls at the Tiger hostess rehab clinic )
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"My name is Kirby.....and I'm a kool aid-a-holic."


"Welcome Kirby !!!!!...."


(Lets get a couple of pitchers of Kool aid and go meet girls at the Tiger hostess rehab clinic )

I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I read this. "This dude needs to step away from the purple and gold kool-aid." Then again it is nice to not hear gloom and doom all over the board. Like I've said before get rid of 2 coaches and then I can start getting really optimistic. Kind of hard to do that when we have the same knuckle head that got us the 109th ranked offense last year and the "best O-line that Miles had ever seen".

Welcome to the Den Kirby. Good post we all could us some sunshine pumped every once and a while.
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I liked the post. After getting 4 more four star recruits today, and finishing with a class that has the same number of 5 and 4 star recruits as Bama, I think my friend Kirby is having the last laugh.
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I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I read this. "This dude needs to step away from the purple and gold kool-aid." Then again it is nice to not hear gloom and doom all over the board. Like I've said before get rid of 2 coaches and then I can start getting really optimistic. Kind of hard to do that when we have the same knuckle head that got us the 109th ranked offense last year and the "best O-line that Miles had ever seen".

Welcome to the Den Kirby. Good post we all could us some sunshine pumped every once and a while.


It’s not so much sunshine as it is a positive outlook on our team and rational thought.

I haven’t seen too many people on this board deny the fact that Miles and Crowton have issues. The difference is that so called sunshine pumpers understand there will always be more to the story than what us simple fans think we know and that we cannot do anything about coaching changes accept sit back and watch.
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It’s not so much sunshine as it is a positive outlook on our team and rational thought.

I haven’t seen too many people on this board deny the fact that Miles and Crowton have issues. The difference is that so called sunshine pumpers understand there will always be more to the story than what us simple fans think we know and that we cannot do anything about coaching changes accept sit back and watch.
Right you are. For now I'm gonna enjoy the recruiting success and get ready for baseball, and worry about the rest in the summer.
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I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I read this. "This dude needs to step away from the purple and gold kool-aid." Then again it is nice to not hear gloom and doom all over the board. Like I've said before get rid of 2 coaches and then I can start getting really optimistic. Kind of hard to do that when we have the same knuckle head that got us the 109th ranked offense last year and the "best O-line that Miles had ever seen".

Welcome to the Den Kirby. Good post we all could us some sunshine pumped every once and a while.
This has been misquoted too many times. It should stop
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I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I read this. "This dude needs to step away from the purple and gold kool-aid." Then again it is nice to not hear gloom and doom all over the board. Like I've said before get rid of 2 coaches and then I can start getting really optimistic. Kind of hard to do that when we have the same knuckle head that got us the 109th ranked offense last year and the "best O-line that Miles had ever seen".

Welcome to the Den Kirby. Good post we all could us some sunshine pumped every once and a while.
Is it that as a pathologist all you see are dead things all day long that makes almost all of your posts completely negative towards the LSU Tiger football team?
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This has been misquoted too many times. It should stop

I was paraphrasing but please put the correct quote if you have it. I would hate to continue misquoting this. The point still remains we were told we had a stud O-line and frankly it just stings to see how poorly our O-line performed this year.
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Is it that as a pathologist all you see are dead things all day long that makes almost all of your posts completely negative towards the LSU Tiger football team?

Ah that was cute.................well not so much you see most of my posts are not negative. You can think what you want, but I believe that most of my posts may be some what critical but I refuse to be a blind sunshine pumper. I think it is a forgone conclusion that there was problems on this team last year. I just like a great deal of people are still a little frustrated that we didn't maximize the use of our talent. And frankly my biggest concern was losing out on big recruits because of the use of our talent last year. That didn't seem to happen so get ready, I am excited about next year just based on our recruiting pool! The only critiques that I can think of for how we did is I really would have loved to get Seastruck, Reed, and another big time QB. But I think we did better than most people expected.

I think there is a frank difference between being negative (like you imply I post) and being critical of your team. I feel the latter is constructive. I have never once said any thing like "I'm done with this team" or "we suck". I just cant apologize for being a realist and not a sunshine pumper.
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I liked the post. After getting 4 more four star recruits today, and finishing with a class that has the same number of 5 and 4 star recruits as Bama, I think my friend Kirby is having the last laugh.
I liked Kirby's post too. We know each other well from the Kool Aid/Sunshine program.. (He's my sponsor)
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I was paraphrasing but please put the correct quote if you have it. I would hate to continue misquoting this. The point still remains we were told we had a stud O-line and frankly it just stings to see how poorly our O-line performed this year.
It's not you. I gotta dig, but I'll see if I can find it. I think they just had too high hopes for the O-line, but I doubt any coach would say. "Well our O-line is.... eh. So anyway...."
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I realize it's close enough, but I read it more as a wish or hypthetical. It's all good, though. Because clearly this line wasn't the best - and it showed early on.

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Ah that was cute.................well not so much you see most of my posts are not negative. You can think what you want, but I believe that most of my posts may be some what critical but I refuse to be a blind sunshine pumper. I think it is a forgone conclusion that there was problems on this team last year. I just like a great deal of people are still a little frustrated that we didn't maximize the use of our talent. And frankly my biggest concern was losing out on big recruits because of the use of our talent last year. That didn't seem to happen so get ready, I am excited about next year just based on our recruiting pool! The only critiques that I can think of for how we did is I really would have loved to get Seastruck, Reed, and another big time QB. But I think we did better than most people expected.

I think there is a frank difference between being negative (like you imply I post) and being critical of your team. I feel the latter is constructive. I have never once said any thing like "I'm done with this team" or "we suck". I just cant apologize for being a realist and not a sunshine pumper.
That's cool...I just had to bust your nads.

I share a lot of your frustrations and embrace your concepts of constructive criticism and skepticism as well.

I can't help but think that lack of playing time for people like Sheppard are in part due to an embarrassment of recruiting riches over the last few years. Sheppard is not a "pure QB" and I don't think he was recruited to be one. If he's intended to be a WR, there are several players on the team who had paid their dues in terms of doing everything that was asked of them for the years before Sheppard arrived.

I would think it would be unfair of guys that were here for a couple of years working their tails off to suddenly be "further back in line" on the depth chart simply because a stud recruit comes in. I'm speculating here, but one of Miles' job is to keep the locker room happy and I think he makes playing time decisions - in part - with those considerations in mind. The depth chart is probably not a pure meritocracy for that reason.

It would be different in other programs where you might have one excellent football player at a given position and the rest were mediocre. In that case, your stud recruits move toward the front of the playing time line.

In terms of player development, I tend to hold the players as responsible as the coaches in that department. The players need to have a level of gifted talent and the coaches have to have a level of competence; but if the players simply "show up" at practices and film sessions and do not put the required work and focus into their game, then they will probably not rise to their potential. The academic equivalent is the student who shows up to class but does not put much effort into studying and mastering the knowledge presented for the course. They may pass the exams, but they probably will never make the Dean's list.

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I realize it's close enough, but I read it more as a wish or hypthetical. It's all good, though. Because clearly this line wasn't the best - and it showed early on.

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Thanks man. You are right though its like playing phone; after so long one thing that has been quoted so man times often gets distorted to something that it wasn't. Thanks for the clarification.
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That's cool...I just had to bust your nads.

I share a lot of your frustrations and embrace your concepts of constructive criticism and skepticism as well.

I can't help but think that lack of playing time for people like Sheppard are in part due to an embarrassment of recruiting riches over the last few years. Sheppard is not a "pure QB" and I don't think he was recruited to be one. If he's intended to be a WR, there are several players on the team who had paid their dues in terms of doing everything that was asked of them for the years before Sheppard arrived.

I would think it would be unfair of guys that were here for a couple of years working their tails off to suddenly be "further back in line" on the depth chart simply because a stud recruit comes in. I'm speculating here, but one of Miles' job is to keep the locker room happy and I think he makes playing time decisions - in part - with those considerations in mind. The depth chart is probably not a pure meritocracy for that reason.

It would be different in other programs where you might have one excellent football player at a given position and the rest were mediocre. In that case, your stud recruits move toward the front of the playing time line.
I completely see where you're coming from here. I just keep saying at the start of practice for the year make it very clear that every week you can loose you starting position. I know that might be kind of harsh but this way all the kids that have it will bust their a$$ to keep it and the kids that want the starting position will push the others and then the whole team gets better. I really just dont like the entitlement idea. It sucks but that's the game I mean if there is some one better than you and they are younger they should still get the start I dont care how long you rode the bench. If the older guy in this situation wants to start well he should put the time in and earn it. Just my thinking; hell that's why I never played football I wouldn't be able to cut it either.


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I agree with you 1000000% here. You can have all the raw talent in the world but if a guy doesn't try to develop his talent then it is a waste. On the flip side you can have a smart guy who is coached up and then suddenly some one who may not have won a national championship or made it to the NFL is getting drafted (ie. Matt Flynn).
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